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Oct 5 at 13:14 comment added mudskipper This implicit assumption that the predictor would be just as good at predicting the one-box and the two-box choices turns out to actually be a crucial hidden assumption in the CDT argument for two-boxing. So far I have not seen any philosophers who seemed to be aware of this. But it turns out that Maya Bar-Hillel in her analysis (together with Avi Margalit) did identify this as the pain point in the argument.
Sep 29 at 18:34 comment added mudskipper One thing that I've never seen discussed -- because almost nobody discusses this from the pov of (predictive/descriptive) game-theory but always from the pov of (normative) decision theory -- is the implicit assumption that the predictor is just as good at predicting whether someone (or anyone in particular) will one-box as he is in predicting that they will two-box. This is an assumption we don't necessarily have to make (but which is hidden in the problem story).
Sep 29 at 17:13 comment added Idiosyncratic Soul @mudskipper I agree. I doubt the same choice would be offered if Box A contained a dime rather than $1000. The problem reveals that risk and value/worth have strong psychological/sociological components. Replace the predictor with a blind coin flip and I believe you would see results very similar to that with a predictor:
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Sep 29 at 14:46 comment added mudskipper @KristianBerry - The amount of money offered is also psychologically definitely a distracting factor. It's much better to transform the problem using smaller numbers and/or only look at ordinal preference orderings imo. (Psychologically it may be that the Allais paradox comes into play. Arif Ahmed discusses this in "Evidence, Decision and Causality", but I forgot details.)
Sep 29 at 14:38 comment added mudskipper @KristianBerry - If I understand you correctly, you bring up an infernally touchy point. Adam Elga brings this (your 2nd question) up in princeton.edu/~adame/papers/newcomb-university/… -- which is a terribly amusing take-down of both the evidentialist and causalist reasonings (but especially the causalist ones). And as far as I know he is the only one who really touched on this (but I've only skimmed a small portion of the literature of course). When you read Elga you will understand why I underlined 'touched' :)
Sep 29 at 14:33 comment added Kristian Berry Does the issue of marginally decreasing utility play into this problem at all? Have any of the answers brought it up or is it not relevant? Also, does the distinction between debits and credits have any bearing on the rationality of wanting either box in the first place?
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