Timeline for The Difference Between Truth and Reality. And what does fact stand for?
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S May 12, 2022 at 15:22 | history | suggested | psyguy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
The third link (to stephenjaygould.org) was dead, as the domain is now used by a gambling website. I found the text in the Internet Archive WayBack Machine, and linked to a PDF containint the same text.
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Jul 27, 2019 at 21:40 | comment | added | Logikal | You would at first need to learn the terminology correctly. According to you because I showed your position makes no sense you say I commit a fallacy. I commit a fallacy because you cant explain how can a FACT be false which is what I stated. Your definition fails as a fact TO YOU will change value with time & new data. Stop responding that I committed a fallacy because you were critiqued. Deal with my claim. Explain. How a FACT can change truth value at any point. Secondly there are TYPES of truth you did not mention. So what type did you answer? You did not say so because you did know them. | |
Jul 27, 2019 at 16:07 | comment | added | MmmHmm | @Logikal more ad hominem, mis-read, and non sequitur? How very consistently unsurprising. It is a fact that your comment is "to the person" not the position. It is a fact that your comments demonstrate a gross mis-read (it would be a mistake to say misunderstanding). It is a fact that your comments do not logically follow from the previous comment. It is a fact that the spelling mistake of your handle here is apropos. | |
Jul 26, 2019 at 5:34 | comment | added | MmmHmm | @Logikal your comment is ad hominem and otherwise non sequitur. It would be a mistake to claim your comment demonstrates a mis-understanding, it simply exemplifies a mis-read. | |
Jul 24, 2019 at 4:23 | comment | added | Logikal | All deducti e reasoning is NOT axiomatic. You are confusing Mathematical Logic with all of logic. Mathematical logic is the newerr kind of logic. ARISTOTELIAN logic predates Mathematical logic by thousands of years. You still did not address how your context of the term FACT can change value. You mix what is practical with the terminology. If something is inconsistent you call it a contradiction which is improper use of the term contradiction. All inconsistencies are NOT contradictions. A fact cannot be false by definition. | |
Jul 24, 2019 at 2:34 | comment | added | MmmHmm | @logikal the contradiction is in your comment, confusing the axiomatic with the empirical | |
Jul 22, 2019 at 19:09 | comment | added | Logikal | A fact under your context seems to change value, which is contradictory. To say some x is a fact and then be wrong means you were just wrong. A fact ought to indicate a statement is indeed true by definition and not on verification. To say all ravens are black is a fact is FALSE. It was likely never a fact to begin with. | |
Oct 24, 2016 at 0:05 | comment | added | MmmHmm | @LuísHenrique, edited for clarification per your comment. | |
Oct 24, 2016 at 0:04 | history | edited | MmmHmm | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
clarification per commentary
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Oct 23, 2016 at 13:15 | comment | added | MmmHmm | Indeed. There is the content of the fact (or, "true proposition") and the object(s) to which it refers. "Truth and falsity are used for propsitional representations, such as beliefs or statements..." -John Searle, Seeing Things As They Are, pg. 40 (2015) | |
Oct 23, 2016 at 12:12 | comment | added | Luís Henrique | "A fact is a statement that is true." When Wittgenstein says, "the world is made of facts", it doesn't seem that he means "the world is made of statements that are true". Rather, he seemed to believe that a "fact" is the external entity to which a "true" statement relates in a certain way that we call "truth" - and, up to this point, I tend to agree with W. | |
Oct 23, 2016 at 5:03 | history | edited | MmmHmm | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
further thoughts and links
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Oct 23, 2016 at 4:26 | history | edited | MmmHmm | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
adding links, correcting an empirically verifiable error
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Oct 23, 2016 at 3:36 | history | answered | MmmHmm | CC BY-SA 3.0 |