Timeline for Aren't we all philosophical zombies?
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| Jun 29, 2020 at 7:17 | history | edited | Guy Inchbald | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 26, 2020 at 15:55 | comment | added | Guy Inchbald | Thank you, I forgot I had not defined it adequately. I have edited my answer accordingly. I have avoided the term "stream of consciousness" because that has more literary and less philosophically precise connotations. | |
| Jun 26, 2020 at 15:52 | history | edited | Guy Inchbald | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
more about the flow of experience
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| Jun 26, 2020 at 15:24 | comment | added | Sophie Swett | Can you explain what you mean by "flow" and "such a flow" when you say that "a zombie has no access to such a flow"? | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:43 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | @tkruse - The point I was making was specifically about the unknowability of qualia other than one's own, it has nothing to do with radical skepticism more broadly. One can believe that there is an objective physical world and that it's possible to gather empirical evidence for or against various propositions about physical facts while still thinking the private nature of qualia means one can only offer evidence-free conjecture about any qualia other than one's own. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:32 | comment | added | Guy Inchbald | I don't think that posting tangential links would convince a determined sceptic who has already made their mind up. They belong in these comments for those who follow down because they are still thinking about it. But thanks for the suggestion. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:32 | comment | added | tkruse | @Hypnosifl, yes, that's radical skepticism. Though the difference between deduction and conjecture exists even without skepticism. In the context of theories of mind and p-zombies, the possible differences between apparently intelligent entities are important, and in this context should not be brushed over. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:21 | comment | added | tkruse | And additional links and resources do not change my opinion that the original text you wrote in your own words is conjecture, if you believe those links can make your answer more sound, you should modify your answer to include those links. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:19 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | From a philosophical point of view, it is equally conjecture that other people have consciousness like you do, or that you yourself had consciousness at any moment other than the present one you are experiencing right now. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:14 | comment | added | tkruse | In psychology and biology, different concepts are relevant, it does not affect the philosophical topic. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 14:49 | comment | added | Guy Inchbald | @tkruse Here too is an article explaining what biologists think about animal consciousness newscientist.com/article/… Perhaps you could explain what kind of meaningful "conjecture" they have all fallen into? | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 14:23 | comment | added | Guy Inchbald | @tkruse Perhaps you should enlighten the signatories to the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf By your argument, everything except your own stream of consciousness is conjecture - as I pointed out at the start of my answer. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 13:11 | comment | added | tkruse | Just because there is neuronal structure in other animals, that does not imply there is consciousness like in humans. If any AI passes the tiring test, that does not imply it has any open experience. Even if we granted consciousness in some animals, that does not logically imply such an AI had consciousness. Your whole post is conjecture. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 10:30 | history | answered | Guy Inchbald | CC BY-SA 4.0 |