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For me, left means: the survival of the group prevails over the individual, which is just a natural mechanism based on majority (e.g. if I kill someone, I want to live, the group wants to kill me, so, the group wins). Taking that into account, I identify myself as such kind of leftist, which do implies complete logical consistency with capitalism, globalism, Darwinian laws, science, tech and art, etc., and mainly... responsibility (no blaming, no complaining, just acting silently to solve issues).

By definition, any responsible individual takes responsibility of what happens for himself. The responsibility to address social problems, the responsibility to solve individual and social issues. Then, he acts on it, without blaming or without complaining. For example: are there poverty issues? Ok, propose solutions without blaming others. Many organizations do so and get it successfully. Your friends need to read about Médecins Sans Frontières, Water.org, Acumen, Heifer, Grameen Bank, etc.

Sorry for this, not personal, but for me, your friends are typical examples of individuals in the second group. They are looking for who to blame -don't understand what for, perhaps to kill or imprison them-. Decolonialism has failed. Deglobalization has and will always fail (maturity is not about isolation; it's not about dependence, it's not about independence: it's about interdependence). Open doors are always good, even if we don't use them; we want them to be open and use them for good. The best examples are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina. They reject modernity (we are not anymore there, anyway, your friends can just create their own social experiments, living like in 1700), capitalism (ask them to give the example, stop accumulating capital and share all their goods, right now!). When they pay taxes, they are supporting colonialism. Ask them to stop buying foreign products, stop paying taxes, stop using the internet, stop learning foreign languages, etc. Otherwise (if your friends don't act, dont donate their goods, don't crush their mobile phones, don't go living in communist kibbutz), those are just empt y words, which just expose their frustrations and anguish of blaming other for their own fails. Not trying to be mean here, but this is a common and predictable social pattern based on dogmas, which provides good amounts of votes to the left.

As a consequence, notice that the left wing has an ideology, but most voters are not serious about it (most don't even know it, otherwise, they would act critically about it (see spanish Ramon Rallo's daily criticism to left wing ideas, which is impressive, he just wrote a book about the fallacies of Marxism)): left-wing voters are serious mostly about confronting and harm the right wing. Just that.

By definition, any responsible individual takes responsibility of what happens for himself. The responsibility to address social problems, the responsibility to solve individual and social issues. Then, he acts on it, without blaming or without complaining (blaming and complaining is just energy waste). For example: are there poverty issues? Ok, propose solutions without blaming and complaining. Many organizations do so and get it successfully. Your friends need to read about Médecins Sans Frontières, Water.org, Acumen, Heifer, Grameen Bank, etc.

Sorry for this, not personal, but for me, your friends are typical examples of individuals in the second group. They are looking for who to blame -don't understand what for, perhaps to kill or imprison them-. If they believe in their ideas, they need to practice them. If they don't apply them, and they provide excuses, they don't really believe them. In such case, their discourse is not based on rationality, but on dogmas, blaming, complaining, use of excuses and personal attacks. Their discourse is evidently explained by personal frustration (causes them to point their failures elsewhere) and resentment (causes them to attack others). You can justify your position, but such kind of people will always find excuses to avoid doing what they say they believe. The arguments are as follows.

Decolonialism has failed. Deglobalization has and will always fail (maturity is not about isolation; it's not about dependence, it's not about independence: it's about interdependence). Open doors are always good, even if we don't use them; we want them to be open and use them for good. The best examples are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina. They reject modernity (we are not anymore there, anyway, your friends can just create their own social experiments, living like in 1700), capitalism (ask them to give the example, stop accumulating capital and share all their goods, right now!). When they pay taxes, they are supporting colonialism. Ask them to stop buying foreign products, stop paying taxes, stop using the internet, stop learning foreign languages, etc. Otherwise (if your friends don't act, dont donate their goods, don't crush their mobile phones, don't go living in communist kibbutz), those are just empt y words, which just expose their frustrations and anguish of blaming other for their own fails. Not trying to be mean here, but this is a common and predictable social pattern based on dogmas, which provides good amounts of votes to the left.

As a consequence, notice that the left wing has an ideology, but most voters are not serious about it (most don't even know it, otherwise, they would act critically about it -see spanish Ramon Rallo's daily criticism to left wing ideas, which is impressive, he just wrote a book about the fallacies of Marxism-): left-wing voters are serious mostly about confronting and harming the right wing. Just that.

Call this The Natural Test: The deepest of our instincts is to survive, and that is normally consistent with all our emotions and reason. When any living being, any individual, any human group, etc. tries a new rule, it is just tested by nature: either that being survives or not. Some specific groups that have submitted new ideas to The Natural Test and ended up with huge amounts of deaths: the FARC; the Aum Shinrikyo cult; Ugandan LRA; North Korea; Jim Jones people's temple; the Khmer Rouge; Nazism, etc.

Sorry for this, not personal, but for me, your friends are typical examples of individuals in the second group. They are looking for who to blame -don't understand what for, perhaps to kill or imprison them-. Decolonialism has failed. Deglobalization has and will always fail (maturity is not about isolation; it's not about dependence, it's not about independence: it's about interdependence). Open doors are always good, even if we don't use them; we want them to be open and use them for good. The best examples are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina. They reject modernity (we are not anymore there, anyway, your friends can just create their own social experiments, living like in 1700), capitalism (ask them to give the example, stop accumulating capital and share all their goods, right now!). When they pay taxes, they are supporting colonialism. Ask them to stop buying foreign products, stop paying taxes, stop using the internet, stop learning foreign languages, etc. Otherwise (if your friends don't act, dont donate their goods, don't crush their mobile phones, don't go living in communist kibbutz), those are just empt y words, which just expose their frustrations and anguish of blaming other for their own fails. Not trying to be mean here, but this is a common and predictable social pattern based on dogmas, which provides good amounts of votes to the left. As a consequence, notice that the left wing has an ideology, but most voters are not serious about it (most don't even know it, otherwise, they would act critically about it): they are serious about confronting the right wing.

From here on, this is necessarily an opinion with some philosophical sustain. Politically, this issue is largely debatable.

Call this The Natural Test: The deepest of our instincts is to survive, and that is normally consistent with all our emotions and reason. When any living being, any individual, any human group, etc. tries a new rule, it is just tested by nature: either that being survives or not. Some specific groups that have submitted new ideas to The Natural Test and ended up with huge amounts of deaths: the FARC; the Aum Shinrikyo cult; Ugandan LRA; North Korea; Jim Jones people's temple; the Khmer Rouge; Nazism, etc.

Sorry for this, not personal, but for me, your friends are typical examples of individuals in the second group. They are looking for who to blame -don't understand what for, perhaps to kill or imprison them-. Decolonialism has failed. Deglobalization has and will always fail (maturity is not about isolation; it's not about dependence, it's not about independence: it's about interdependence). Open doors are always good, even if we don't use them; we want them to be open and use them for good. The best examples are North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina. They reject modernity (we are not anymore there, anyway, your friends can just create their own social experiments, living like in 1700), capitalism (ask them to give the example, stop accumulating capital and share all their goods, right now!). When they pay taxes, they are supporting colonialism. Ask them to stop buying foreign products, stop paying taxes, stop using the internet, stop learning foreign languages, etc. Otherwise (if your friends don't act, dont donate their goods, don't crush their mobile phones, don't go living in communist kibbutz), those are just empt y words, which just expose their frustrations and anguish of blaming other for their own fails. Not trying to be mean here, but this is a common and predictable social pattern based on dogmas, which provides good amounts of votes to the left. 

As a consequence, notice that the left wing has an ideology, but most voters are not serious about it (most don't even know it, otherwise, they would act critically about it (see spanish Ramon Rallo's daily criticism to left wing ideas, which is impressive, he just wrote a book about the fallacies of Marxism)): left-wing voters are serious mostly about confronting and harm the right wing. Just that.