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I have read the answers to many questions like mine I reached these two definitions of propositions (I don't know which one is correct)

  1. A proposition is a statement that can be true or false. If this is true then what characteristic should a statement have to have a truth value? And can you provide examples of statements that have a truth value and the ones that don't

  2. A proposition refers to the language-independent core meaning of sentences. Statements merely express propositions so statements are true in virtue of the propositions.

Which one is correct? I am just so confused :(

Then I tried to figure it out on my own but there were just too many explanations on the internet, I even tried getting help from AI, but it said this which confused me even more: it is possible for a sentence that has a proposition inside to not be a statement. This is because the proposition inside the sentence can be a complicated one

A sentence that contains a proposition is considered a proposition itself only when the sentence is simple and can be evaluated as true or false in the language of formal logic.

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  • Does this help: philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/10896/47749?
    – J Kusin
    Aug 31, 2023 at 19:40
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    Both are correct. A lot of words have ambiguous uses, this is one of them. In philosophy, the second use is vaguely closer to what is more common, see SEP, Propositions:"The term ‘proposition’ has a broad use in contemporary philosophy. It is used to refer to some or all of the following: the primary bearers of truth-value, the objects of belief and other “propositional attitudes” (i.e., what is believed, doubted, etc.), the referents of that-clauses, and the meanings of sentences."
    – Conifold
    Aug 31, 2023 at 19:46
  • I have already read that it has helped me a bit :) J Kusin
    – Credence
    Aug 31, 2023 at 19:47
  • Well-formulated question. You need to, if you are confused, work on your logic.
    – Hudjefa
    Sep 1, 2023 at 6:41

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