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I’ve seen some atheists casually talk about how they should still not worship the traditional Abrahamic God if He was proven to be real. This is because in their eyes, He is evil.

Many have even said that they would go to hell because they’d atleast enjoy the company of other atheists. And that they wouldn’t be able to enjoy heaven knowing that their kin or friends are suffering.

To me, this seems preposterous. For one, it would be insane to willingly burn forever in a fiery place for eternity. Second, if the whole point of heaven is so that you can enjoy it, why would God make you suffer? Perhaps He might even erase memories of your kin or whatever else.

Either way, what is the limit to how much you can uphold your own moral principles? If God is All Powerful, why does it matter what you think?

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  • Really the existence of God is a sideshow here. What's really at stake is proof of the existence of an eternal Hell, and proof of the criteria that gets you sent to that place.
    – Steve
    Sep 10 at 15:49
  • Good point @Steve
    – thinkingman
    Sep 10 at 15:52
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    Whether any given person's moral conviction is really strong enough to face an eternity of torture to do what's "right" is something we can only speculate about. In any case, there's an additional caveat that if God were evil, heaven probably wouldn't be that fun of a place, and you might always need to worry that you'd do something that results in eternal punishment. Also, if he's erasing your memories, one could make the case that that's no longer "you".
    – NotThatGuy
    Sep 10 at 16:26
  • Has she done anything to deserve the position she’s in? If not, why would anyone worship the nepo-baby?
    – gnasher729
    Sep 12 at 22:28

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The only thing I know about Abrahamic god is: “The Abrahamic god is the conception of God that remains a common feature of all Abrahamic religions. God is conceived of as one, eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, and the creator of the universe.”

An atheist rarely inquires about the eternal thing/truth that one can attain or understand ... or, as it were there (or,it must be there) even before realisation. Attachment to transient things eventually brings you only sorrow. IMHO, It is expressed in another form using the word 'hell'. In the case of laymen, it also reduces the risk of harming others.

If there is such a heaven, can a good man ever enjoy heaven after leaving his friends and relatives in hell? And what would one say about such a creator?

Be confident, be humble, and be helpful. Being a good person is more important than believing or not believing in God. But the only thing you need to remember is that you should always be wary of anything that boosts your ego.

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    "Attachment to transient things eventually brings you only sorrow" - but it also brings joy. Avoiding joy to avoid sorrow leads to greater sorrow. Also, accepting the transient nature of things can help reduce sorrow.
    – NotThatGuy
    Sep 10 at 15:39
  • No sorrow means, no attachment to anything. What's wrong with it? :) You ignored the word --'eventually'
    – SonOfThought
    Sep 10 at 16:37
  • In my opinion the chances are at least 99.9% that “God” doesn’t exist. If he exists, then the chances are 99.9% that he doesn’t give a rats arse about me. If he does, chances are 50-50 that he is good or evil, so anything I do has a 50% chance of getting me into trouble. And if she reads this, will she be bum hurt about this comment or be the bigger woman?
    – gnasher729
    Sep 12 at 22:26
  • @gnasher729: If there is creation or the feeling of creation something must exist permanently. And that 'something is called God. If you can't find any creation, you can call it pureconsciousness.
    – SonOfThought
    Sep 13 at 1:19

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