This is not a question about the cogito argument in the closer sense. I will try to isolate my questions from the other questions posted concerning Descartes.

If I understood what I've read correctly, Descartes claims that what he knows clearly and distinctly is true as it can't be any differently. That's true for the cogito, and, let's assume for argument's sake, also for the ergo sum.

Now I read in the Cambridge Companion to Descartes (online available here) that apparently this ergo is no syllogism but an intuition as basic as the cogito itself. My early assumption, namely that Descartes uses logic to infer the ergo sum though he didn't prove logic's truthfulness yet, is thereby rebutted.

But what about inuition? A quote from the Cambridge Companion (p.147):

Second, Descartes' talk of intuition and deduction from intuitions as our two sources of knowledge in the Rules gives way to talk of clear and distinct perception in the Discourse, Meditations, and Principles. He never announces that the faculties are the same, but their equivalence is strongly suggested by the fact that he designates them by similar descriptions: "the light of reason" and "the light of nature." We are told in the Rules that: "intuition is the indubitable conception of a clear and attentive mind which proceeds solely from the light of reason [rationis luce]" (Rule III: AT X 368: CSM 114) and in the Principles that: "the light of nature [lumen naturae] or faculty of knowledge which God gave us can never encompass any object which is not true in so far as it is indeed encompassed by this faculty, that is, in so far as it is clearly and distinctly perceived" (Part I, art.30: AT VIIIA 16: CSM I 203; consider too Meditations: AT VII 38-9:CSM II 26-7).

I already highlighted what I'm aiming at: Even if Descartes doesn't need logic to work before he can actually prove that it does, even if he can "reduce" the ergo sum to a basic intuition - isn't he getting ahead of the argument, relying on the natural light of a non-deceiving god, although it's not before the 3. meditation that he actually proves that there is a god and that he is no deceiver? In other words: If he has not yet proven that it is impossible that the "natural light" we rely on in our knowledge is sent by a deceiving or evil entity, can any step after the cogito be called necessarily true?

To underline the importance of god for knowledge, let me quote one more passage (p.151):

Descartes denies that the atheist has "true knowledge" on the grounds that the atheist is uncertain of whether he is deceived by some god. Prior to proving God's existence and nondeceptive nature, Descartes is just as uncertain as the atheist about the existence of a deceptive god. His clear and distinct perceptions should not produce certainty for him either.

Isn't there at least the possibility that even when we make analytical or deductive judgements, we're mistaken for we're not granted the natural light of the God? Am I missing something? Or is Descartes plainly abandoning his method of "geometrical deduction" and anticipating the proof of God's existence to deduce it?

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    There is clearly an interpretative issue here : the so-called Cartesian Circle. See the SEP entry on Descartes' Epistemology, Louis Loeb's article [The Cartesian circle] in The CC to Descartes and, for example, Edwin Curley, Descartes Against the Skeptics (1978). – Mauro ALLEGRANZA May 5 '14 at 8:11
  • I appreciate the links, and will check them out. Thank you. – iphigenie May 5 '14 at 8:14
  • For what I've understood, I think there are two aspects in place : (i) How to "ground" knowledge: we have to start from somewhere "ungrounded"; is this the role of the cogito ? (ii) deductive inference proceeed with (see modern math log "modelling" of it) a succession of elementary steps: Descartes, in his first attempts (see the unfinished Regulae and see Early Modern Conceptions of Analysis) worked on it. But what "legitimate" the elementary steps ? is not deduction ... must be intuition ? – Mauro ALLEGRANZA May 5 '14 at 8:22
  • @MauroALLEGRANZA I might not have fully understood what you're trying to say here, but from what I did get... how is this different from what I've written or an answer...? – iphigenie May 5 '14 at 8:38
  • Can the cogito be (Kantian-like) intuitive, in the sense of natural or organic part of the growth of consciouness, which is what I assume you refer to, when you say the ergo is intuitive; In Lacans reading, we might have '(I) see other, ergo I'. This reading then returns the cogito to its syllogistic pedestal - which to me seems right, as I find it difficult that the preconscious ego, before being able to utter I, says I think; perhaps the latin is better, as it is one word - cogito - and removes the requirement to say I which must be said in the english version. – Mozibur Ullah May 7 '14 at 3:30

I don't know what lumen naturale is supposed to be, but here's a guess. Descartes is getting the notion from medieval philosophy, but significantly changing it.

It is an old and important part of the Aristotelian tradition in cognitive psychology that a power cannot err with respect to its object. For instance, the object of the power of vision is color, and, for an Aristotelian, it this power is infallible in the sense that when I am sensing red, then I am sensing red. Error creeps in when I make a judgment like "there is something red". Now the objects of the intellect, as medieval Aristotelians thought about them, were concepts. And again, the intellect is infallible in the sense that when I'm thinking of a square, I'm thinking of a square.

The medieval Aristotelians had a hard time explaining how and why we have knowledge of these abstract concepts like squareness, or horsiness, or whatever. Like Aristotle, they were committed to the view that the only things that exist in reality are particular entities, like this particular square, this particular horse, etc. But if the world is full of particulars, and we get our knowledge from the senses, how does it come to be that we have knowledge of universals like the concept of a square? The short answer is that we arrive there by abstraction--i.e. by examining things that appear to be members of a kind and attempting to isolate the necessary and sufficient features for membership in that kind. On this view, the universals are "in" the individual, particular things insofar as we can abstract away the particularity of the individual member of the kind and get the universal concept.

Now, I said this is what medieval Aristotelians believed. There was also a parallel Platonic tradition that was an important part of the medieval Jewish, Christian and Arabic philosophical traditions. According to the Platonists, the concepts were not "in" the things at all. The sensible particular objects down here are just copies of the perfect ideas of a square, horse, etc. in God's mind, according to which he created everything. We do not learn from sensation, but rather the divine mind illuminates us with its own concepts.

My guess is that Descartes's bit about the lumen naturale is something that he's taken from a 15th or 16th century scholastic philosopher who has tried to syncretize these two traditions. Maybe this person said that our act of abstraction is just what illumination was supposed to be. (Henry of Ghent in the late 13th century had tried to make room for both abstraction and illumination in his philosophical psychology.) If you had some kind of sense that the divine light was just the same as the infallible power of the intellect, maybe that's something you could call a natural light?

Be that as it may, it is clear that Descartes has to be helping himself to much more than this. Because Descartes needs it to be not just simple concepts or sensations which are infallible, but rather whole sentences. The C&D rule is a little plausible if you restrict it to concepts: "when I clearly and distinctly conceive of a square, then I am conceiving of a square" sounds (trivially) true. But there's no reason to think that should work for whole sentences like "when I clearly and distinctly conceive the Goldbach conjecture is false, then the Goldbach conjecture is false." So, even if Descartes is using some medieval language here, he is clearly altering its meaning.

  • In the Arabic world that sounds like Suhrawardis illuminationism. – Mozibur Ullah Oct 10 '14 at 5:54
  • @MoziburUllah That isn't an accident. As I understand it, Suhrawardi was heavily influenced by early, neoplatonist muslim philosophers. The early transmission of greek philosophy to the Islamic world focused much more on Plato than Aristotle, IIRC. – shane Oct 10 '14 at 12:10
  • I'd suggest that given the focus on the prophetic tradition in Islam, and thus on revelation; that prophethood would be seen as a kind of intense illumination.Even in conventional speech we say 'its as though a light switched on'. – Mozibur Ullah Oct 10 '14 at 17:49
  • Aquinas has a similar theory of prophecy---God just directly illuminates the prophet's intellect. Usually knowledge happens through experience, so some form is received in the intellect. But in the case of prophecy, God by his miraculous power makes an effect exist without the normal cause, i.e. he gives the prophet's intellect knowledge without that knowledge having been caused by experience. – shane Oct 10 '14 at 18:28
  • I think Al-Ghazalis occasionalism argued that cause and effect in the physics world - his example was fire and cotton-wool - couldn't occur without divine intervention; I'm curious as to whether this thought could be tracked in the epistemological domain, where thought, in the sense of synthesis of concepts, cannot occur without divine assistance. – Mozibur Ullah Oct 10 '14 at 18:38

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