This question is really important for understand what's actually matter to us as humans. Having a limited life span is factor by which everyone of us is driven to something (goals/dreams/fulfilling responsibilities). What could happen if we didn't have that life span limit ?

Become immortal might be not bad thing after all if our loved ones are also immortal but what if you are only one in this world who is immortal ?

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  • Strangely enough Tolkien has a lot to say about this, particularly in The Silmarillion. Elves are an immortal species, and their entire character is entirely based upon their immortality. They are a peaceful, isolationist species, and Tolkien explains why at typically Tolkien detail levels. – Richard Mar 20 '19 at 13:52
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    This seems to ask for opinions on what "actually matters" and what is "good/bad" about immortality. Since this is inherently subjective it is off-topic here. – Conifold Mar 20 '19 at 19:56
  • ... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God...For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality...And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly...Death is swallowed up in victory. – Bread Mar 21 '19 at 9:04
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    Possible duplicate of What are arguments against the option of immortality? – Eliran Apr 26 '19 at 1:29

Become immortal - blessing or curse?

You come into existence and become immortal. You could extent this idea this way--'You come into existence from something mortal and become immortal'. From a mortal thing you become immortal. Is it reasonable?

Become immortal....who/what? Body or soul?

If the answer is 'body', it never happens for it is made up of cells. Since it is emerged, it must decay. When you stick to these terms only, you get only two choices. But when you consider these two terms, you are actually confining to a dual state. There must be/is a thing which is non-dual that transcends both. When you realize it, you would never feel this as a problem because you do not gain or lose anything new.

Become immortal might be not bad thing after all if our loved ones are also immortal but what if you are only one in this world who is immortal ?

Fundamentally others are also like you. So this type of a state has no coherence. If you are immortal others are also immortal. When you realize what immortal is, you will realize who the loved ones are.

cf.: Is your deep sleep blessing or curse?

If you are suffering from any ailments or if you are worrying about something, you will say that deep sleep is certainly a blessing. On the contrary, if you giving more importance to happiness than peacefulness and if you are feeling that deep sleep loses your happiness, you will certainly say that it is a curse. But don't forget that when you deal these two words you are comparing that state from another state.

What would be you answer if you are comparing waking state from deep sleep? You might say it is a blessing or curse; but only after you woke up (as I mentioned in the above para). But during that period did you feel any kind of happiness of blessing or worries of curse? Your answer will certainly be 'No'. If so, similar is the case of immortality. TO BECOME IMMORTAL IS BEYOND BLESSING AND CURSE.

  • How is it that others are necessarily immortal as well? Furthermore, it not being biologically possible is not the point here, and the duality sleeping/waking seems to be a far cry from mortal/immortal life. Can you expand on these things? – Joachim Mar 22 '19 at 8:22
  • "How is it that others are necessarily immortal as well?" ~ I have mentioned it in my answer. Fundamentally every human body is made up of cells or tiny particles. Then what is left? See this: himavanti.org/en/c/teachings-of-masters/…. "...and the duality sleeping/waking seems to be a far cry from mortal/immortal life." ~ You should focus on the thing that is immortal. If you couldn't, you could use it for understanding the state that is beyond blessing and curse. Thanks. – SonOfThought Mar 22 '19 at 13:45

Talk to some elderly people and ask them what aging is like. The answers will be all over the map, of course, but I'll bet many, if not most, will mention loneliness, a sense of loss and confusion.

Think about the changes we've seen in the last two centuries, or the last half century, or since 9/11. It's simply hard to keep up with the dizzying pace of change.

Moreover, no person can know everything. Even if you're immortal, you're probably going to be puzzled by a generation of young people who are more hip to the latest Internet conventions and memes than you are. It might make you feel a little alienated.

What kind of social life are you going to have? Are you only going to date people who are closest to your age - like in their 90's?

If you don't feel a special connection with Nature, count your blessings. Mother Earth is spiraling downward. Young people may be relatively unaware of this sad state of affairs, because they haven't lived long enough to see many major changes. I was born in 1955, and I can see the changes very clearly; it's scary.

If you're immortal, you'll be forever comparing the world you were born into with the current world order, which is probably going to become more perverted with time.

You might be able to make new friends, but you can't replace your parents, siblings and other relatives. You may feel a little lost and confused without them.

Frankly, I think it would take an exceptional person to experience immortality without going insane. I suspect immortality would best suit people who are introverted and have interests and passions that keep their minds occupied in lieu of a meaningful social life.

In fact, philosophers might be better suited to immortality than most people. But imagine if Plato, Kant, Machiavelli, Descartes, Buddha, Confucius and Jesus were all living today. The passing of centuries would only enhance their wisdom, and they could grow even further by sharing ideas with each other.

Imagine Jesus and Machiavelli exchanging notes on their iPhones. Cool.

But I'll bet all of these great thinkers would mourn their youth, when life was so much simpler and the environment so much more pristine. I suspect at least some of these seven immortals would eventually take a cue from Socrates and opt for suicide.


Biological Immortality

I would just point out (for starters) that biological immortality is not "genuine" immortality (deathlessness). Tolkein's elves are biologically immortal in the sense that they don't physically age. But they can be "slain" (in battle, for example) just like anyone else. That said, I'll take biological immortality if/when I can get it. That might actually be possible within some of our lifespans, as aging is clearly a genetic phenomenon. There is probably a gene for aging that has Darwinian survival value because it enables the evolutionary process itself. I personally also believe in the spiritual type of immortality (without adhering to any particular sect). But know what? I'd choose the biological variety any day of the week....


We don't know how someone could achieve immortality. Just saying immortal makes humans open to much more accumulated risks than a mortal. Specifically, everything irreversible would seem significant.

The obvious potential curse is: In most types of immortality defined by humans, you likely either forget, or never forget, or even unallowed to forget by the law. But humanity as a whole is in effect very near immortal, which selectively forget and relearn things in its process of rebirth. This worked well as far as we know it.

In a world reasonably close to reality, we could only achieve immortality by solving each of the problems, using resources to maintain it, stopping enforcing preserving abilities that backfire, and slowly adapting to the immortal way of living. We would also invent more other technologies useful for immortals. We won't be open to all the risks all of a sudden.

If it's all of a sudden, we could also always have extreme possibilities such as an immortal terrorist stronger than nukes, or permanent torture by a immortal dictator. And you have infinite time to wait for such possibilities.

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