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Ok ,so I'm reading now Indian philosophy and I found that Buddhism and many other Indian philosophy recognise both ' determinate and indeterminate stage of perception ' while jainas don't !

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    Because their epistemology is relativist/perspectivist, this doctrine is called anekantavada. Reality is 'non-one-sided', no one perspective or set of perspectives, can capture it, no pramana (source of knowledge) can give unadulterated truth. Sense perception is no exception, and there is no "indeterminate" (i.e. free from mind's perspective) stage to it. "Any judgment is true only from the perspective of the judge, and ought to be so expressed", see IEP Jain Philosophy. – Conifold Oct 3 at 22:35

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