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In the examples of "The Wandering Two-Bitser, Twin Earth, and the Giant Robot" from the Intuition Pumps book, also found here, what is the discussion actually about?

It seems always like a mixture of:

  • Meaning of symbols
  • Thoughts/concepts
  • Goals/intentions
  • Mental states being about something

though "intentionality" traditionally only refers to the latest point.

And mixing in "goals" (or intentions) is especially vexing here.

So does he apply some own idiocratic definition? Or does he want to show that all of those above basically are really just the same?

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    Intentionality is a compelx philosophical term: "it has been used to refer to the puzzles of representation, all of which lie at the interface between the philosophy of mind and the philosophy of language. A picture of a dog, a proper name (e.g., ‘Fido’), the common noun ‘dog’ or the concept expressed by the word can mean, represent, or stand for, one or several hairy barking creatures." Thus, meaning, concepts, mental representations have all "intentional" nature: they stand for something "out of" our mind. Mar 14 '20 at 14:52
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    Reading Dennett always gives me a headache. He is a smart man who thinks of himself as a genius, and wallows so much in his own sense of superiority that I practically gag on it. Sigh... Mar 14 '20 at 17:52
  • @MauroALLEGRANZA but concepts are involved in abstract thought. It is therefore very questionable if e. g. a cat has concepts. But in all likelihood, a cat has subjective experience, consciousness; so it has intentionality, like fear of a dog. The fear is about the dog. So why does Dennett ignore those more simple forms of intentionality? Sure, in humans it's difficult to disentangle this from conceptual thought, which would nearly always be present, too. But that's a bad excuse.
    – viuser
    Mar 15 '20 at 0:41
  • For reasons given by @TedWrigley and others I wouldn't worry too much what Dennett means. The last item on your list seems to define intentionality as the word is commonly used. . .
    – user20253
    Mar 15 '20 at 10:59
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    @MauroALLEGRANZA: I'll probably get flack for saying this, but Dennett is not really a philosopher; he's the philosophical equivalent of a pundit. Dennett has a fixed goal: the elimination of religious ideation. To eliminate religious ideation, he has to put a pin in any concept that might lead towards metaphysics. Allowing the philosophical concept of intentionality would (to his mind) be tantamount to allowing the concept of a 'soul,' so he has to reject it. The rest is him rationalizing what he takes to be a foregone conclusion. Mar 15 '20 at 14:17
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For understanding some philosophers, it IS critical to get a precise definition of terms. That often isn't the case with Dennett, he generally uses words a bit imprecisely, more like a normal conversation, than like a math proof. That there isn't a single, precise meaning to "intentionality" is actually readily observed from the way he applies it across multiple authors, who are writing with very different objectives and in different modes. Dretske discussing the nature of "error", Kripke on "rule following", Millikan's discussions of function, the intentionality assumed in biochemistry, the intentionality assumed in evolutionary biology, Searle discussing the critical differences between syntax and semantics -- this diverse subject set CLEARLY cannot all be operating off one common meaning of "intentionality!!!

Hence your question -- what is Dennett REALLY talking about? One key to understand this is to recall that US philosophy of mind was dominated by behaviorists for about a half century -- so that when one tried to discuss the mental -- the vast majority of philosophers insisted that one could not actually reference anything INTERNAL. There were a few decades following the behaviorist domination that were similarly dominated by functionalism, where one could reference internal events, but only "functionally". Dennett was writing while functionalism was still in domination, so philosophers actually trying to discuss consciousness are going to often use code-words, or else make an effort to pretend that function == consciousness. One such term often used was "intentionality" or "an intentional stance". Under modern reading, one should generally translate this into a debate as to whether we are conscious or not.

Dennett effectively argues "not", by embracing functionalism wholesale. IF one functionalizes "consciousness", into "intentionality", then it is actually pretty clear that Dennett has the right side on this. Complex enough Robots can do ANY function! And there is not any indication of a critical threshold of complexity of function (some TBD emergence principle) that causes "magic" to happen with only some complex functions, such that they are "conscious" and other functions are not. And it is certainly true that "intentionality", if it is defined purely functionally, can be assigned to quite simple functions, such as that performed by a "two-bitzer". So, Dennett is pointing out that strict functionalists about consciousness, which most of his contemporaries were at the time, should either ascribe consciousness to all functions, or to none.

Functionalism has since gone into partial decline, as many advocates of it were not willing to accept the conclusions Dennett argued for here. It is also now acceptable to admit that we can and do have internal evidence of consciousness -- IE that we have qualia, and perceptions, and we actually do have personal and privileged access to this information. The plurality of philosophers of mind today have fused functionalism and qualia with an acceptance of a TBD emergence process by which complex functions somehow generate consciousness, so that they remain "physicalist" at least in the origin of consciousness. By accepting emergence, this would then be a non-reductive physicalism.

Dennett, who is committed to reductionism, refused to accept this compromise between physicalism and real internal experiences (in other writings is becomes more clear why -- he thinks all such models end up being dualist). Emergence was mostly frowned on at the time of this essay, but it has since become pretty widely accepted. Most of the rivals he was attacking in this essay went on to adopt an emergentist approach to consciousness, and become explicitly non-reductive materialists.

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  • Can you provide us with the mathematically precise definition of intentionality? Mar 28 '20 at 23:27
  • I would not ever try to do so. Like Dennett, I make do with conversational English for almost all purposes.
    – Dcleve
    Mar 29 '20 at 0:15
  • I'm still trying to figure out when it is necessary to use "at" and when it is best to omit it. But back to your answer, is your first paragraph simply setting the scene, like, "Yeah this intentionality stuff is hard to get a handle on", or is it a complaint that Dennett is trying to mislead? Mar 29 '20 at 1:04
  • @WillieBetmore -- no complaint, and Dennett was not trying to mislead by his use of the term. He was consolidating multiple thinkers views about consciousness that he disagreed with, using a term they would all use themselves, in diverse ways. My answer was positive, and this essay did not trigger my oversensitized "Dennett is doing it again" radar. Except in a minor passage where he asserts by innuendo (asserting by innuendo triggers my dishonesty detectors from pretty much every writer) that naturalism requires reductionism, but that was not important to answering the question anyway.
    – Dcleve
    Mar 29 '20 at 1:39
  • " Except in a minor passage where he asserts by innuendo (asserting by innuendo triggers my dishonesty detectors from pretty much every writer) that naturalism requires reductionism..." Can you recall some of the wording, or which section it was in? I'd like to have a look. Mar 29 '20 at 1:48
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The concept of intentionality is subtle and intrinsically difficult. In the philosophical literature, the term refers to a capacity to make a mental representation of something, a representation which has content or meaning. In other words, say I write a phrase like: "There is a cow standing in a field". I have intentionality because I can make that mental representation as I write it down; you have intentionality because you gather or create that mental representation as you it; the text itself has a kind of intentionality by extension, because I use it to convey that mental representation to you. Intentionality is meant as a bridge between the subjective and objective worlds; if you'd like a rubric, think that if you apply attention to something outside yourself, you create intention in the form of a mental representation.

As I noted, the text I wrote has a different kind of intentionality called derived intentionality. The text does not know what it means; the text does not have a mental image on its own. The text merely transfers my mental image in a way that you can create an equivalent mental image. What you and I have is called original intentionality in the sense that we actually attach some sense and meaning. Having produced that phrase, both you and I could run out and find a field with a cow in it, and say "Yes, that's what that phrase means." We make a correspondence between what's in our heads and what's out there in the world, and doing that is an intrinsic part of our nature. By contrast, a cat that looked at that phrase would not have a mental representation of a cow in a field: cat's can't read, and so cannot use that tool to transfer a mental representation. It's a question of some debate, in fact, whether cats and other animals have intentionality at all: whether they are capable of making mental representations of that sort.

I happen to be in the camp that grants animals a degree of intentionality, but Dennett goes in the other direction and actively disputes that there is such a thing as original intentionality at all. Instead, he sets out to collapse the concept of original intentionality into the concept of derived intentionality, and he does this by reinterpreting intentionality as a capacity to make decisions. He does this in three steps:

  1. He starts with a simple machine: a vending machine with a device that 'decides' whether an inserted coin is a valid quarter. This is derived intentionality, of course. The device has no mental representation of a valid quarter, but has been designed to weigh and measure according to some human's specifications.
  2. He draws out more and more complicated machines until he gets to a computer programmed to make complex decisions in ambiguous circumstances — a true AI — but asserts that this AI still has only derived intentionality. It does what it was programmed to do by some human; it has no mental representations of its own; it attaches no meanings or content to its processes or actions.
  3. He invoke the theory of evolution to suggest that human beings are merely biological machinery, no different in kind than the sophisticated AI discussed in #2, and thus can only have derived intentionality. The chemical processes on the level of DNA and RNA do not have 'original' intentionality — they don't have mental representations of any sort, and are not teleological — and there is no point in the increasing complexity of cells, organs, nerves, or brains in which can be seen to develop 'original' intentionality.

Of course, the immediate problem with this line of reasoning as that points 2 and 3 are presumptive. Since he denies the existence of original intentionality he doesn't seem to bother examining the concept, and he glosses over problematic questions like "What biological, electro-chemical processes caused my fingers to move in such a way that they typed out 'there is a cow in a field' on a keyboard?" That particular action hardly seems to increase my survival fitness (and likely decreases my chances at successful mating), so...

This is really the Problem with Dennett's approach. Intentionality isn't just about 'making a decision.' Intentionality is a matter of 'making meaning' within which decisions appear. If we comes to a fork in the road, we have to first establish the meaning of it — that there are now two paths instead of one — and we have to pull in other meanings, other mental representations of where we want to go and what we happen to be doing, etc. If we couldn't establish that meaning we'd be like a dumb robot that crashes straight into the trees between the two paths. And yes, we can program robots to make more sophisticate decisions at junctures like this, but what isn't clear is whether we can program a robot to make meaning of these junctures. Dennett boldly and blithely asserts that we cannot, and that therefore we ourselves do not have original intentionality.

This is merely speculation or belief on Dennett's part (though it would anger him to hear me say that). Biology and neurology are nowhere near developed enough to create more than the simplest links between objective biology and subjective experience, and computer science hasn't come close to creating a full-fledged AI. Dennett is jumping at this conclusion because he wants to close the door on any possible religious or metaphysical ideation (such as the idea that 'intentionality' is a product of the human soul), and thus has turned a blind eye on the limitations of the sciences and of the consequences of his own beliefs. C'est la vie...

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  • This is misleading. Intentionality is not related to intention. From SEP: " in its philosophical usage, the meaning of the word ‘intentionality’ should not be confused with the ordinary meaning of the word ‘intention.’"
    – Eliran
    Mar 14 '20 at 18:54
  • @Eliran: Have you read the linked Dennett text? Because that is how he uses the term (regardless of the way it is presented in the SEP). Maybe I should add in a bit to reflect that, but still... Mar 14 '20 at 18:59
  • @TedWrigley but why does Dennett use the term in this very non-standard way? Or does he really? Maybe it's an implicit argument - hard to tell. He managed to confuse you, too. The text is only partially about intention, and also about meaning, concepts and symbols (or words). I do not see any connections What's his point? His critics would probably all agree, that even the most subservient human, brainwashed from early age by a cult, who follows his master's commands indeed unconditionally still does have thoughts about something, which robots / computers in their opinion lack.
    – viuser
    Mar 15 '20 at 0:16
  • @wolf-revo-cats: if you give me a bit, I'll add some revisions about the difference between Dennett's use of the term and the philosophical use (sorry, it's been a busy day). It's not as far apart as it might seem; what I suspect is happening is that Dennett is translating the philosophical sense into his own worldview, which can only interpret 'mental states' in biological terms. I'll try to get it done in the next couple of hours. Mar 15 '20 at 3:22
  • @wolf-revo-cats: I rewrote this to draw out the philosophical sense of intentionality. let me know if that's an improvement. Mar 15 '20 at 15:47

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