I noticed in certain cultures that I interact with here in Malaysia, it seems that the distinction between fact-opinion and objectivity-subjectivity is non-existent. Whereas in STEM and the scientific method, this is a must for practitioners to know - correct me if I'm wrong. So this distinction is predominantly universal or cultural?

  • See Facts: "they are part of the furniture of the world." But facts (sometimes) can be "theory-laden": see e.g. Negationism: the denial of the existence of a well-known historical facts. – Mauro ALLEGRANZA Feb 24 at 7:33
  • Thus, there is a clear distinction, but also "interaction" between facts (what is real) and opinions (what we believe/assert). – Mauro ALLEGRANZA Feb 24 at 7:34
  • It is 100% cultural... unfortunately. We are not born fully rational -- we have the hardware that has basic rules hardcoded -- like rules of inference or 3-d space. But in that state, it is barely useful. The software part -- the essential knowledge of the world -- needs to be taught. – Yuri Alexandrovich Feb 24 at 7:54
  • Making the distinction is obviously culture-specific, scientists emphasize it much more than artists or common folk, even in Europe. The real question is whether the distinction itself is objective, regardless of whether a culture chooses to make it or not, or a human artifact serving some practical purposes. But the answer to that itself depends on one's (philosophical) culture. Scientists mostly believe that it is objective, cultural relativists believe otherwise. – Conifold Feb 24 at 14:53

Of course people always identify these pair of notions to different degrees, otherwise such a society will be in a mess quickly. From my experience, in western culture one identifies these pair of notions much more strictly than in eastern culture. Western culture emphasizes deductive logic, so one has to identify clearly all the facts from opinions to deduce and support one's argument convincingly. While eastern culture generally emphasizes ones' main inductive thesis/point as a whole. Every culture has its pros and cons, you have to adapt, not complain about...


It is 100% cultural -- something I must concede with great sadness in my heart.

Note that the distinction in question sets rational against irrational. And when it comes to rationality, we, our rational, conscious Self gets shipped as bar-bone hardware of our prefrontal cortex -- and that's it! The hardware part is amazingly powerful, capable of holding and selectively running a comprehensive 3-d simulation of the objective reality -- in one's head! Unfortunately, only the bare minimum of the simulation is hardcoded -- e.g. logic and the rules of inference, discrete time, 3-d space.

As for the rest of it, including the essential knowledge of the world, it has to be acquired separately -- subject to the local laws and regulations. In other words, culturally dependent.

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