I am confused as to what numbers are. Numbers are defined to be what they are, so numbers aren't real? But numbers are found in nature, right? So if we invented them, how can they be found in nature? How can everything be based on something that is not real. Sorry if what I am saying don't make sense, it hard to put it into words. I feel like I've been known numbers all my life yet I don't know what they are. Also why don't complex numbers have an order? Real numbers are an invention just as complex numbers are, so how are imaginary numbers any more imaginary than real numbers? I mean an order was given to the real numbers, so why can't complex numbers be given a definite order?