While still being distinct terms. And is there a term for this? Hope that’s enough to go on!

  • If you assume there're 2 types of selfs (ego-like and soul-like) then a change of the usual concrete knowledge can possibly change your ego-like self if it's impressive enough to any of your constituent part of your ego, but no effect to the other self. Why? The former is simply from the tree of knowledge which brought about the task of beirurim, while the latter is emanated from the tree of life such as described by Kabbalah's Sefirot Dec 22, 2021 at 23:08
  • Does a physical change to the brain or its function -- say disease, trauma, drug -- count as a change of knowledge?
    – Michael
    Dec 23, 2021 at 3:57
  • @Michael Doesn't any change in qualia impart new knowledge? Assuming the person is still subjectively experiencing, then both their knowledge and self would change.
    – J Kusin
    Dec 23, 2021 at 4:14
  • Does knowledge exist beyond physical (chemical, electrical, structural)? Does self exist beyond physical? If only self exists beyond physical, but not knowledge, then some part of self is non-knowledge. If so, can that non-knowledge part change, or is it static?
    – Michael
    Dec 23, 2021 at 4:42
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    No. The self can change its non-cognitive aspects, such as emotional attitudes and dispositions to act. And no, this is not enough to go on for a cogent answer on this site. Maybe enough for a discussion forum like Philosophy Forum.
    – Conifold
    Dec 23, 2021 at 5:12

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When we sleep can our self sleep...?...sleep holding on to our ego tightly...? Can you say your self changes if there is a change in knowledge?

The soul is usually called the Self. If you like perennial philosophy, I invite you to read the Bhagavad Gita.

The changes occur after knowing about something (change in knowledge) may be in your perception, emotions, thoughts, attitudes, behavior, etc.; but not in the soul. You will see its explanation in the second chapter. Soul is always pure. No purification is needed to it. It is a misconception to say that the soul changes.



  • I know very little eastern philosophy so I I’m glad to hear I may find some insight.
    – J Kusin
    Dec 25, 2021 at 20:37

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