In one of his recent essays (https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2021/04/why-does-the-universe-exist-some-perspectives-from-our-physics-project/) the scientist Stephen Wolfram says (at the end of it, in the "How should we feel about all this?" section) that, since he adopts something similar to a platonic view, proposing that the universe ultimately emerges from an abstract formal object, the universe would not be real or "actual" but instead "virtual" or "formal".
But, I don't understand this: Even if we actually lived in an abstract formal structure, since that formal system would be the ultimate bedrock of reality, wouldn't that make it automatically "real" or "actual"?