# Can something real be an association to something else?

Can some real thing, that exist, be an association to another thing?

What does of the image or real thing causes an associative effect?

Exist ergo real?

i also see the problem with "there is" construction, because there is existing, is not same that one exists. To be is the construction(?) of associating something with another thing by the signs - already is an associative thinking.

There(this) is existing - then that exists/that has existed and this was endowed existing sign of that by means of the association. But that wasn't associated of means.

The distinct between exist and to be:

There are unicorns - true. Unicorns exist - false.

in this cause that the one is is not a sufficient condition that one exist.

• The substantival reality of relations is a fairly open question, see "Relations" in the SEP. If association is taken as intentional, see "Are there intentional objects?" (also in the SEP). Commented Jun 11, 2023 at 21:27
• @KristianBerry thank you, but i asked not about relations, but about reality, something that existing in real, not intentional object. Or they are same things? Commented Jun 11, 2023 at 21:41
• Hmm, what are you using the word "real" to describe? I interpreted "association to" as a relation between some X and what X is associated with, which is association-as-a-relation. Now some people deny that relations are real, though, or they say that relations have a lesser reality than monadic properties, etc. Commented Jun 11, 2023 at 21:54
• @KristianBerry "X" that you tap ? real, or what exist? i think that real - something that exist, real because exist. That have not exist - not real. Unicorns have not exist - thay not real, but unicorns looking toys are exist, toys things are looks real, but toys meaning, game meaning of toys are not looks real, but belonging to relation, probably Commented Jun 11, 2023 at 22:04
• Something real is not necessarily a thing. Entities can exist in ways different than things exist, the word "exist" is polysemic. Redness is an "association to a thing", it exists in reality. Distance is an "association" of one thing to another, it also exists in reality. The distinction between existence and subsistence that you make at the end has been introduced by Meinong, see SEP. Commented Jun 12, 2023 at 7:57