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the practice of effective persuasive speech/argumentation

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Your argument is invalid if you didn't experience it!

Consider the following scenario: Person A never ate a cake. Person B has eaten cake before. Now A has the opinion that A dislikes cake (and brings up several arguments), but B argues "You've ...
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Is there a name for this Freudian-inspired fallacy?

Yet another of these fallacy questions... There is a certain kind of rhetorical move which famously might occur in classical psychoanalysis, but also in other situations. The therapist says the ...
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Clarifying relation between rhetoric, dialectic and logos

Rhetoric is primarily comprised of: ethos (appeal to character), pathos (appeal to emotion), logos (appeal to logic/reason) Dialectic is distinguished from rhetoric in that it only uses logical ...
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Fallacy and guilt by discussion?

I recently encountered a discussion that went along the lines of: A: Pedophiles are not just old men touching little kids. They're also 23 year olds going out with 16 year olds. B: Pedophilia ...
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Is feigned listening bullshit? (And if so, or even if not, is there a name for it?)

In his essay On Bullshit Frankfurt writes: The fact about himself that the bullshitter hides, on the other hand, is that the truth-values of his statements are of no ...
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Is it difficult to know “general opinion”?

Is it difficult to know "general opinion"? Or can it be measured well somehow? I have had this problem of thinking that, when I get another person agree with me that I "possibly" hit a general ...
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I'm trying to identify a rhetorical device

I already asked this question on the writing forum, but I suppose the subject matter is better suited here. Once again, I am writing a commentary on the book of Galatians, while employing a socio-...
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What type of rhetorical device is the offering of a source which is really long and not specifying what part of the source is relevant?

I'm encountering a frequent recurrence of a rhetorical device that seems to me fallacious but I can't figure out what it's called. When making an argument, the person does the following: Makes a ...
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Rhetoric: How to frame redundancy in an argument as deficiency?

How can we categorize redundancy in an argument as deficiency? That is, weaken the argument because of its redundancy? Suppose X is an argument that boasts coherence and clarity, but it has various ...
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logical fallacy (or pseudo-logical, or rhetoric) corresponding to unduly extending my argument to make it false

This is probably similar to my preceding question: What's the name of the logical fallacy where a debater extends a statement far beyond the original statement to make it true? but I'm not sure ...
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Is this ad hominem or in general acceptable behavior during an argument?

Person A: What is considered socially acceptable should be common sense regardless of outside influences. Person B: What is considered common sense or obvious can be very different depending on the ...
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Is there a word for the type of rhetorical strategy where you distract from the point in order to seem authoritative?

Is there a word for distracting someone from the topic of the argument, and using the authority they have established in the mean time to (fallaciously) prove their original point? An example I ...
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Intention and Means-End Reasoning in Epistemology

In his paper, The logical foundations of means-end reasoning, John Pollock describes a notion of "means-end" reasoning, which is planning with a certain end goal in mind. Human plan-construction ...
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What is the proper response in a debate when your opponent ignores your counterarguments?

I keep running into a situation in debates and arguments. My opponent makes an argument (or counterargument), and I carefully disprove all of my opponent's points. However, instead of addressing my ...
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Is rhetoric philosophy?

In rhetoric, students are primarily concerned with making arguments that are convincing. Rhetoricians who deviated from the truth were rightly skewered in Socrates' time for their problematic "...
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What is the meaning of the term 'eúnoia'?

While reading on the subject of rhetoric, I learned a technique entitled 'captatio benevolentiae'. Further research revealed to me its root being 'eúnoia' (Greek for a well mind; beautiful thinking). ...
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What argumentative tactic is in play when someone says “The media isn't covering this”?

I see memes about once a week which state, "The media isn't covering this really important thing. Shouldn't they be ashamed! Like and Share and FWD to grandma if you agree!". Similar posts include "...
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How to build up clear ideas

I was reading Descartes' Rules for the direction of mind and noticed how clear are his ideas. I would love to speak in that way, where every sentence is a necessary step to climb up the final idea. ...
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Did Plato say “In order to argue, you must express your opponents argument better than they could?”

One friend said: If I can't see what is substantial and noble in a viewpoint I oppose - whether ethical, political, or religious - there's a good chance I haven't understood it, and/or that my own ...
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What logical fallacy is the statement that “A good person would do X” as an argument against not doing X?

I am lecturing a class in which a student has asked for my slides in advance. (My main reason for not doing this is to avoid students passively reading the answers to questions that I put to them in ...
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What fallacy dismisses problems by making it specific to the critic?

Occasionally, I write criticisms about some products online and people respond with statements like, "That's just your problem," or questions like, "If you don't like it then why do you use it?" I ...
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Identifying logical fallacy in argument

A friend challenged me with a statement A1: If there is no Jesus, why are there churches? Which rules of reasoning does it break? Is there a name for statements like that? The presented statement ...
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Are mythological stories scientific explanations?

Are mythological stories scientific explanations? {It would seem so because Zeus, for example, was as early explanation of lightening.} Or are they stories/rhetoric? Or is story-telling or rhetoric ...
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How, if at all, has the concept of rhetoric mutated during post-modernity?

How, if at all, has the concept of rhetoric mutated during post-modernity? I gather than it ('rhetoric') began its life, in classical Greece, as a form of public discourse inclusive of 'poetry', '...
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Identifying deployed rhetoric instruments [closed]

There is a quote from a TV series, which seems to contain (at least) two rhetoric instruments. Michael Scott: Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate. So he's really not a ...
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What fallacy dismisses criticism of a bad law with “just don't break it”?

Let's say someone is criticizing the government for instituting some draconian policy, and/or for persecuting people for doing something minor. And the response is:"Just don't do it and you'll be fine"...
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Name for reverse Ad Hominem, (i.e. praising the defense)?

Is there a standard name for a fallacy of the same form as an ad hominem, except that instead of denouncing the opposition, it praises the defense? Typically an ad hominem ("against the man") fallacy ...
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What happened to rhetoric as a branch of philosophy?

Long long ago, rhetoric was a branch of philosophy. As far as I can tell, nowadays there is no philosophical work in the domain of persuasion and argumentation; this is now done in the public-...
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Can a question be bullshit?

In his essay On Bullshit Frankfurt writes: The fact about himself that the bullshitter hides, on the other hand, is that the truth-values of his statements are of no ...
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How does rhetoric and substance interact in a successful debate?

I have been interested in debates for a while. Doc. William Lane Craig has for a long time been a spiritual hero of mine, and hearing him talk about debate is always interesting. So in the previous ...
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Is there a term for this 'disclaimer' technique used in statements?

This is a pretty common type of statement that's seen frequently on internet posts and discussions, but I was curious if there was a term for it. The statement starts off with a disclaimer which is ...
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Claiming misrepresentation as a rhetorical device

Most of us are familiar with the Straw Man fallacy, and its sister the Principle of Charity. There's a rhetorical device which runs the opposite way, though, where (e.g.) Alice may claim that ...
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Aristotle and irony for gentlemen?

I have a very vague recollection of reading a quote---I think by Aristotle in one of his works on rhetoric. The general idea of the quote was that, when making an argument, you ought to counter your ...
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What fallacy dismisses a conclusion because supporters give invalid arguments for it?

A person dismisses an otherwise valid argument, because some of its proponents support it for the wrong reason. How is this fallacy called? EDIT: Here is an example. A person defends the idea that ...
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Reverse tautologies in rhetorics

Recently I came across the following line of reasoning. The reason is because it is COMMON SENSE, which many do not have. Obviously something goes wrong here as per definition of common sense many ...
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How do I counter this argument? [closed]

Essentially I was in an argument with a pro black/#BlackLivesMatter proponent, and they asserted that the USA is out to get black people, and that white's are constantly killing blacks. I countered ...
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Why do people who subscribe to self-refuting skeptical philosophies still argue with others?

The belief that everything is relative is obviously self-refuting, because it holds to an absolute. However, in my experience, people who believe this (or some form of it) such as some Buddhists and ...
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“That religion is not a race doesn't stop people who attack it from being racist!” Is this a logical fallacy?

Does this argument represent a logical fallacy? If so, which one? Jack: People who argue against [religion] are racist. Jill: But, [religion] is not a race! Jack: Well, that religion is ...
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What fallacy excludes “outsiders” from discussing “insider” issue?

I see this a lot on the internet, especially as of late with what's trending in the news: You're a man, so you're not allowed to comment on women's issues. You're a woman, so you're not allowed to ...
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How to write clearly about philosophy?

Are there any guides on how write clearly, especially when writing about philosophy? I ask because I am usually baffled when someone says that they don't understand me, and at a loss as to how to ...
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name this fallacy: A was P in the past -> A must be P now

I've been seeing arguments of this form for awhile: (agreed true premise) Some predicate P was applicable to behavior/event/thing A in the past. Variations: P(A) may have been true at some particular ...
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Why does Hume raise the Missing Shade of Blue?

From reading this question on Hume, having read the first seven sections of the Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding (which covers the relevant section), a further question hit me. Hume dismisses ...
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What fallacy dismisses problems by presenting “bigger” problems?

Wasn't really sure how to phrase this, but I'm thinking of an instance in which someone diminishes a problem by presenting one of larger scope - as a rather shoddy example, "x political problem in ...
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How to avoid the slippery slope fallacy in arguments and discussions? [closed]

I´m looking for advice on how to argue better. Sometimes, in a discussion, I have the bad habit of generating strong examples, that are near to violating Godwin's law or invoking the slippery slope. ...
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Is there a logical fallacy that describes insulting an argument rather than addressing it?

I'm having a net debate and the person is raving about how pathetic my argument is rather than explaining why it is a pathetic argument. I believe its a logical fallacy but I'm not sure.
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How to effectively undertake the study of a philosophical work?

I feel like this question gets posed a lot in different ways and was curious if it might be possible to formulate it narrowly enough to get answered here. For the most part I think the answer is ...
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Attacking a rejected hypothesis

I’ve noticed a type of fallacious argument for which I’m not able to find a recognized name. It goes something like this: Ms. W.: You might believe hypothesis A to be true, but reject it for reasons ...
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Is it Unethical to Use Sarcasm?

I am trying to find an ideal example of when it is best to use Sarcasm. It seems that sarcasm in general is a rude, and disrespectful approach to talk to someone. I can see how it may be used to prove ...
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Aristotle's Wording Is Either Wrong Or Confusing

In Rhetoric, Book I, Part 6, Aristotle states: We may define a good thing as that which ought to be chosen for its own sake; or as that for the sake of which we choose something else; or as ...
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best Phaedrus edition to start with for beginner

I'm interested particularly in Socrates' condemnation of written words and its propensity to create a false and superficial sense of intelligence which seems so prescient in light of how people use ...