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Is it a "shifting of the burden of proof" if I show evidence in favor of a position, and ask the audience to debate that evidence if they disagree?

The concept of a "burden of proof" is fundamentally misguided, because everyone has a duty to justify their beliefs. Whether you think A, or whether you think not-A, you need a reason! And ...
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Orderings in Philosophy

Well, you raise a good point that I've also thought about. That said, there is a typical argument for why preferences would correspond to maximizing an expected value: the Von Neumann–Morgenstern ...
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Is it a "shifting of the burden of proof" if I show evidence in favor of a position, and ask the audience to debate that evidence if they disagree?

You ask: Is Alice here really fairly shifting the burden of proof or is she committing what Bennett considers a fallacy? She actually came up with proof for her position, and offered to debate those ...
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Philosophers are not scientists or mathematicians, except incidentally, and what we do as philosophers is not science--it's often pseudo-science. This is not a bad thing. Philosophers frequently ...
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How precisely is "Steel Man" different from "Iron Man" in a debate?

In the very first paragraph, the authors write: We will argue that there are both appropriate and fallacious versions of this tactic [iron-manning]. They explain: There are compelling epistemic ...
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Is there a fallacy for "A doesn't work very well, therefore B is better than A"?

All formal fallacies are non sequitur, giving them fancy names doesn't make them more "specific", if it works it should make them more "descriptive". So the actual problem is that ...
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What kind of logical fallacy is the "Who are you?" scene from Anger Management?

I don't think that there is a logical fallacy here per se. The problem here seems to be one of three: They keep asking because they think the question is unanswered They keep asking because they don'...
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Can the "Appeal to the Authority" fallacy also be used when the authority is negative/disliked, or is that a different fallacy?

You shouldn't cling too much on to this naming your fallacies idea. In the end all the fallacies are just non sequitur (does not follow) as in "The conclusion that you present does not follow ...
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What kind of logical fallacy is the "Who are you?" scene from Anger Management?

The usual nature of an argument is that you show that your conclusion B is the logical necessity following from the premises A. Now a fallacy occurs if the conclusion does not follow from the premises....
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Or is this just something that needs to be postulated and so there isn’t much more to be said about all this. That's the answer, more or less. If we have a concept of some sort that admits of degrees ...
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Orderings in Philosophy

It is common that many "philosophical" words have been said exceedingly naively. This is a fact which characterizes also the concept of order. Though we have examples of strict philosophical ...
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Is it a "shifting of the burden of proof" if I show evidence in favor of a position, and ask the audience to debate that evidence if they disagree?

Yes. A claimant of an unusual claim has the philosophical burden of proof, they cannot rationally demand others to invest effort. This is not necessarily about heated debate, but just common sense. ...
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The implication if we discovered that natural abiogenesis is statistically nearly impossible

One way of proving the universe is fine-tuned for life is to show that there's little room for error in some of its critical values (re Martin Rees' Just 6 Numbers). The Anthropic Principle responds ...
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Is it a "shifting of the burden of proof" if I show evidence in favor of a position, and ask the audience to debate that evidence if they disagree?

Verum that for any proposition p that comes up in discourse, p must always be accompanied by justification. So if p = There are unicorns in the garage, Alice has to justify p. If ¬p = There are no ...
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Is there a fallacy for "A doesn't work very well, therefore B is better than A"?

Well, first of all the statement "Allopathic system of medicine has lots of problems" might be true to some extent, but it's a vast oversimplification. Medicine has made tremendous strides ...
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Descartes Statement in Second Meditation is illogical?

You are on the right track in my view — Descartes is made too much of in western philosophy. Methodological doubt is all very well on the face of it, but Descartes never really gets out of his mind. ...
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How does Bias affect the reliability of a process?

an argument was made that a consensus on the reliability of the process is needed for a process to be reliable It's an apparently fallacious argument, consensus cannot determine reliability any more ...
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How does Bias affect the reliability of a process?

Preface If you're talking about what I said, then I didn't say/mean consensus on the reliability of the process is "needed", but rather one way/factor to measure reliability is by checking ...
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How does Bias affect the reliability of a process?

Your approach is wrong: strictly, reliability is impossible to foresee or predict. In simple words, you can say an assessment is reliable only if you have actual data to compare it against. If you ...
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Orderings in Philosophy

how can philosophical arguments account for these potential issues with assumed orderings? Or is this just something that needs to be postulated and so there isn’t much more to be said about all this. ...
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Orderings in Philosophy

I'd say you have to treat each example on its own, you won't find a common answer. Philosophy is not like mathematics in that it is not built on top of a reasonably small amount of axioms from which ...
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Orderings in Philosophy

Interesting and a good question without a doubt. First, let us focus on your use of rock, paper, scissors as potential evidence that there is not an "ultimate" order, so long as I understand ...
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What would be the name for the fallacy leaving out important supporting evidence from an opponents argument?

Fallacies are failures in deductive reasoning. Essentially your deductive arguments follow the form of implications so "if A then B". Then you'd show A and conclude B. So all fallacies are ...
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The implication if we discovered that natural abiogenesis is statistically nearly impossible

Discovering that natural abiogenesis is nearly impossible would have sweeping implications, prompting a re-evaluation of scientific theories , influencing philosophical and existential discourse and ...
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Can the "Appeal to the Authority" fallacy also be used when the authority is negative/disliked, or is that a different fallacy?

If Biden does, in fact, want socialism, is it really a fallacy? In my opinion, they were merely truncating the discussion by avoiding getting into semantics with you and giving an example. The ...
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Name of the fallacy that "you don't know" implies "the media is hiding it from you"

Neither party “knows” which means that until more evidence is provided, the rational choice is to go their separate ways. The outcome of their decisions will provide more substation than continuing ...
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Is "we can't do good because bad exists" a logical fallacy?

“I can’t believe” other people do this thing when other things should be done instead. That’s technically a personal opinion. The actual fallacy would come later based on what they decide to do about ...
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