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Why is it impossible for a program or AI to have semantic understanding?

There is a blatant problem with Searle’s argument and it’s quite hard to understand why it hasn’t been pointed out before: None of Mr. Searle’s brain cells understands English, yet he claims that he ...
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Do computers use logic?

Allow me to be precise about this. Logic (in the formal sense) is a system of manipulating symbols according to rules. Computers can manipulate symbols according to rules — that is more or less ...
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What do humans do uniquely, that computers apparently will not be able to?

“What do humans do uniquely, that computers apparently will not be able to?” Be human. In all seriousness, your question reduces entirely to what it means to be human. If computers (or anything else) ...
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Why was intuitionist logic abandoned?

Intuitionistic logic is certainly not abandoned in math. Even if most people use classical logic, there is still a large community of people who work with intuitionistic foundations, look up for ...
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What do humans do uniquely, that computers apparently will not be able to?

"What do humans do uniquely, that computers apparently will not be able to?" Nothing (from a materialist/scientific perspective - some e.g. Penrose might disagree - see the comments). Why ...
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Why is it impossible for a program or AI to have semantic understanding?

I find it odd that his main argument for why programs could not think was that because programs could only follow syntax rules but could not associate any understanding or semantics to words( or any ...
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Can LLMs have intention?

No, an LLM itself is a statistical model stored as a artificial neural network about linguistics in a training set. It has no activity, nor intentions. It has no perception of the world or time, no ...
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Does or could ChatGPT understand text?

The argument is irrelevant. You can apply the same logic to say that humans don't understand text, since text doesn't exist in your brain. There are lots of software applications that read text- if ...
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Does or could ChatGPT understand text?

ChatGPT never gets the text questions online users type. All it gets is electrons. […] The ubiquitous claim that ChatGPT is trained on text stored on the internet is simply bonkers. This argument is ...
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What do humans do uniquely, that computers apparently will not be able to?

Like many questions in philosophy, this is a question that is easy to phrase in natural English but has key subtleties that make it terribly hard to answer. The flippant answer is we don't know. ...
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What do humans do uniquely, that computers apparently will not be able to?

Humans can take moral responsibility for their actions. Computers will never be able to do so. Suppose an autonomous robot soldier kills an innocent person for no justifiable reason. The moral failure ...
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Who was the first philosopher to describe what we now call artificial intelligence?

People often don't realise how vague a term Artificial Intelligence is. It can be used to indicate anything from a synthetic mind with human-equivalent capacities (more properly called Artificial ...
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Could general-AI language generation be a test for sentience, sapience, or consciousness?

If several independent general AI were to, unprompted, develop their own language ab initio (or perhaps from other languages,) could this serve as a test for sentience, sapience, or general ...
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Can LLMs have intention?

Not by a standard definition of intention. From WP: An intention is a mental state in which a person commits themselves to a course of action. Having the plan to visit the zoo tomorrow is an example ...
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Who was the first philosopher to describe what we now call artificial intelligence?

Ramon Llull is a good contender. From the Wikipedia article on the History of artificial intelligence: Spanish philosopher Ramon Llull (1232–1315) developed several logical machines devoted to the ...
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Why is it impossible for a program or AI to have semantic understanding?

As I see it, Searle is getting at the point that syntax is algorithmic — a system driven by predefined rules and procedures — but semantics is (as far as we can tell) not. In other words, it's easy ...
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Why was intuitionist logic abandoned?

The chief difficulty of intuitionistic logic seems to be that it is cumbersome and difficult to use. It is not truth-functional, which means that the truth-table methods that work to establish or ...
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Why is it impossible for a program or AI to have semantic understanding?

Short Answer There's a number of positions outlined in your SEP link to Searle's Room that make clear that philosophy has not decided by consensus one way or another the question of human and semantic ...
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Is there any philosophical theory behind the concept of object in computer science?

If you are asking whether ontology had an influence on what are called objects in computer science, then the answer is probably "no". I was reasonably familiar with the literature from the ...
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How is AI changing our view of consciousness?

Wikipedia: Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical ...
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If Large Language Models can do Maths, is Formalism true?

As a constructivist brother who places as much credence in Platonic Forms as he does in the Irish tuatha da dannan or the Norwegian troll, let me dispute the premise that LLMs do math or have much in ...
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Does or could ChatGPT understand text?

People are quick to point out that AI is merely electricity passing through some wires and transistors and such and to perform basic mathematical operations, and therefore AI is not intelligent like ...
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Why is it impossible for a program or AI to have semantic understanding?

TL:DR; If we view brains as computing machines (which, for all we know, they are), there is no basis for Searle's claim. According to the Church-Turing thesis, which is a very respected result in ...
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Why was intuitionist logic abandoned?

Artificial Intelligence is one discipline that over the last 50 years has looked for models of logic to deal with bounded rationality, and while connectionist models are all the rage and are being ...
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Do computers use logic?

You might like this answer: Why is a measured true value “TRUE”? Physicist Richard Feynman makes the case in this lecture that computers are essentially limited to sorting: Hardware Software & ...
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Does or could ChatGPT understand text?

First of all - LLM has no conscience so one can argue they do not understand anything at all. Does a flashlight understand that you switch it on when you push a button on it? No, it's just turned on ...
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Can LLMs have intention?

In many movies, you have seen an AI robot moving here and there, doing this and that with an intention. Can a generative AI-like language model (e.g., ChatGPT) can ever do that? This question is ...
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Help understanding this bit of philosophy in this paper

First of all I fear you're overthinking this way too hard. Like computer science often borrows terms from philosophy because both are dealing with the relation between abstract logical entities and ...
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How is AI changing our view of consciousness?

Today it is an open question whether machines can develop consciousness. Neuroscience is searching for the neuronal correlates of consciousness (NCC), i.e for neuronal structures and activated ...
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Could general-AI language generation be a test for sentience, sapience, or consciousness?

"there is some debate about whether or not current LLMs are intelligent or sentient" There is debate about what it even means to be intelligent or sentient. For a long time we've taken it ...
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