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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

I feel like this question is conflicted on the issue of 'disproportionate' inequalities. To be clear, most academic and scientific experts are paid well, proportionately more than many other workers ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

I disagree with the premise that these two views are in some way contradictory or conflicting to hold at the same time. The alleged discrepancy you're pointing out, when you boil it down to its core, ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

Let me set Rawls to one side and bring Marx on stage. It may be a mistake to translate the complex, abstract idea of "equality" into the monetized value measurements of a modern economy. ...
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Why do people quote Ayn Rand so much on this forum when she clearly wasn't into philosophy?

If she [Ayn Rand] has nothing to do with philosophy and her arguments are not philosophical in nature, what is the point? Ayn Rand was a philosopher. She wrote about epistemology in "Introduction to ...
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Why is John Rawls taken more seriously than Ayn Rand?

You ask "What am I missing in Rawls's theory of justice?" after having said that "Rawls says the rich should be free to get as rich as they want to, as long as the poor get to pick up of a few crumbs ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

1. It was never "your" income to begin with There is a key idea one should realize before going any further: there is no such thing as "your" income (unless you have earned it on ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

(From a utilitarian perspective.) There's a tradeoff here that arguably Rawls perspective doesn't fully recognize. It all comes down to the diminishing marginal utility of wealth. On the one hand, the ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

One important aspect is that people do not get rich because of hard work, people get rich because they take risks in business. Jeff Bezos is not extremely rich because he has worked hard. He is rich ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

By the logic of who contributes most to the group and/or society as a whole, if we acknowledge that some individuals contributes significantly more to society (based on their formally recognized ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

Something to think about is the distribution of the inequality matters. If you took the entire human population and graphed physical traits like height, weight, strength, you would see a normal ...
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Understanding Rawls and Nozick

A new government wants to take control. They want to give everyone $5 a month. Because they believe that is equality. There are rich people and poor people. So if the government gives $5 to everyone ...
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Why do people quote Ayn Rand so much on this forum when she clearly wasn't into philosophy?

You might discribe Nietzsche's work as 'predominantly a collection of his opinions and unsubstantiated postulates and proposals'. So what? You are going to have to qualify 'so much' in relative ...
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Why do people quote Ayn Rand so much on this forum when she clearly wasn't into philosophy?

I think there's kind of two questions actually getting asked here. The first question is: "why would it ever make sense to bring non-philosophical thought into philosophical inquiry?" Though I am no ...
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How is Rawls's "liberalism" reasonably classified as liberal by this SEP article?

Perhaps the concept of "liberty per se" is not very stable, or is even self-defeating. The freedom-to-lose-freedom, for example, seems (A) wrong to use or (B) wrong to even have. So one ...
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Why do people quote Ayn Rand so much on this forum when she clearly wasn't into philosophy?

A key idea of the Objectivist philosophy is that arguments must be made in terms of essentials for conclusions to be valid and validatable. This is why, for example, the concept of a human as a ...
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Why do people quote Ayn Rand so much on this forum when she clearly wasn't into philosophy?

I think Rand's rather persistent presence is due to three factors. 1 She is a NAME and is often described in the media as a philosopher. Many questioners are simply rather curious about her on that ...
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How can Rawls' justified inequality not be equality?

He is supposing that inequality is a precondition in his hypothetical. If inequality existed (the means by which it came about is not addressed), it would only be acceptable if the gains of the rich ...
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How can Rawls' justified inequality not be equality?

RAWLS AND INEQUALITY A bit of background-setting is needed – I’ll keep it as brief as I can. The question and any relevant answer clearly concern Rawls’ ‘difference principle’, which he defines as ...
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Which distribution is allowed by Rawls's difference principle?

Technically, both are allowed. But that's not the real question here. The question is which scenario would be chosen in a Rawlsian Original Position. To decide that, I would argue, there isn't enough ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

An answer in response to the question's update. You are asking about an apparent contradiction in these two statements: We should listen to advice of "top experts" much more than others. It ...
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How can one argue against income inequality while defending achievement and expertise inequality - beyond invoking Rawls' difference principle?

Edit: I think this is a good answer, but not to OPs original question Haha. I went off on a bit of a tangent. Mea culpa. I will look at revising it tomorrow morning. A. We as a society do better if ...
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Should a deontic logic informed by Rawlsian/Arendtian considerations use plural quantifiers?

I don't think the use of plural quantifiers makes any real difference. The issue you are addressing is that some theories of ethics require us to aggregate individual desires or preferences, and there ...
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Does, "There is a purely conscientious act," imply, "There is a purely right act"?

I think the most important element to examine in your question is: But so does the concept of a purely conscientious act (PCA) in turn lead to the concept of a PRA? By metaphysical necessity, it ...
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Criticism to the premise of arbitrariness of moral desert in Rawls

We should take a view as if we were in the position of a dictator, able to give rules to all of society. What rules would we wish to impose, in order to produce a society that we judge best? ...
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How to convince an anti-rawlsian of the pertinence of the "veil of ignorance" condition?

A major part of Rawls' argument here depends on a contrast with the sympathetic-spectator model of impartiality. Rawls goes to great lengths to point out the difficulty with resolving the question, &...
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DIFFERENCE PRINCIPLE DEFINED by Rawls vs Nozick

Nozick's objection to Rawls' 'difference principle' is that it is a patterned principle. This means that it considers, without regard to how actual distributions of property or entitlements ('goods' ...
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Would Rawls accept fair trade as a fair/just organization?

Fair Trade and Rawls Theory of Justice can be more broadly subsumed under the notion of Distributive Justice. However the former is a practical step within existing institutions and the global ...
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Reconciling Utilitarianism and Rawls's Theory of Justice as Fairness

I could only scan the question and unfortunately can send only very first thoughts: To me, it seems that a position related to yours exists under the label "prioritarianism". C.f. https://plato....
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What did Rawls mean: "rewarding moral desert as a first principle would be like having the institution of property to punish thieves"?

"(having the institution of property) in order to (punish thieves)" is being compared to "(organizing society) in order to (reward moral deserts)", if I've untangled the grammar correctly. Thieves ...
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How can Rawls' justified inequality not be equality?

A system in which the poor are paid 10% of the profit while the rich take 90% is an inequality but, as the position of the rich improves so does the position of the poor. Take a system of governance ...
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