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What 'internal' or 'divine' sign is Socrates referring to in The Republic when talking about the scarcity of true philosophers?

Per: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/δαιμόνιον the 'internal' or 'divine' sign is "the name by which Socrates calls his genius, or the spirit that dwelt within him" (noun 2.1) Alternative ...
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Socrates and The Republic

Plato, Republic, 331c. The context is the initial discussion of Cephalus' conventional wisdom (see the refernces to Sophocles and Pindar). Cephalus suggest a naive view of justice, defined as "...
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What does this excerpt from Plato's Republic mean?

In this part of Book II, Plato is describing the early education of the Guardians. In Waterfield's translation, this passage appears in Chapter 4, "Primary Education for the Guardians". Plato, ...
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What does this excerpt from Plato's Republic mean?

Plato would prefer to censor the story completely and eliminate it from circulation because it projects a morally incorrect image of the gods. However, he recognises that the story, so firmly ...
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What's the argument of Socrates in addressing Thrasymachus' argument that the pursuit of self-interest or injustice pays better than that of justice?

According to Nickolas Pappas, Plato's Republic (Routledge, 2013), Socrates' (unconvincing) refutation of the view of the sophist Thrasymachus, that justice is "nothing other than the advantage of ...
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What is the symbolism of Piraeus in The Republic?

I am an 85 y/o academic pathologist, so certainly no classicist. But I have read philosophy all my life; the dialogues a few times; Republic more than a few times. I think Plato went "down" ...
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What is the symbolism of Piraeus in The Republic?

It is an allusion to the Cave Allegory. The enlightened one is going into the cave to enlighten... It is also a spiritual descent because he is also going there for pagan worship to pray to the ...
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What does Thrasymachus accuse Socrates of when stating he argues like an informer?

I think that the word "informer" has here its usual meaning: a spy, a person who pretends to be on your side, but secretly intends to harm you. This interpretation will account well for ...
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What evils does Socrates refer to when discussing his State and the origins of war?

Puzzle You raise your question in terms of a puzzle. Glaucon, to you, sounds incoherent in his conception of luxury. On the one hand, it is the source of the evil (wanting more than what is necessary ...
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Is Plato contradicting himself in the Republic?

The objects of mathematical knowledge are, as you indicate, not Forms. And the hypothetical nature of mathematical knowledge also removes mathematics from the unhypothetical first principle, the Form ...
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What does Plato think of human nature in the Republic?

I don't think we can or should set aside the demands of the ideal society, given that Socrates explicitly makes reference to the ideality of the city in several junctures where he's being pressed ...
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Marriage, age and temperance in Plato's Republic

Plato and the rules for marriage Plato's regulations on marriage principally apply to the guardian class, the philosopher-rulers. We need to distinguish two senses of marriage in the Republic. These ...
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Why is it obviously false that the distribution of prime numbers can only be a matter of knowledge and never of opinion?

I think the OP misunderstood the guidebook. The OP said According to (12) it might seem that the distribution of prime numbers can only be a matter of knowledge, never of opinion. Obviously that is ...
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What's the argument of Socrates in addressing Thrasymachus' argument that the pursuit of self-interest or injustice pays better than that of justice?

Socrates versus Thrasymachus Socrates deploys four arguments against Thrasymachus : There are four main arguments that he advances against Thrasymachus, directed against four of Thrasymachus' ...
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Where did Socrates describe the tripartite of the soul in the Republic?

You will find Plato's analysis of the tripartite soul in Book IV 436 - 439. In the Republic, he presents his analysis as a comparison of the soul and the city. First, he identifies the three parts in ...
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Why does Plato rank numbers fundamentally below certain other ideas?

Look at this part 511C-D which I take from Elaine Landry https://youtu.be/IqMWVNHg5Gc?t=372 because it has the best translation I can find imo: Landry gives Glaucon's shocked reply to hearing ...
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Why does Plato rank numbers fundamentally below certain other ideas?

There is a longstanding read-back of neo-Platonist monadism into Plato's own Form of the Good (though see also William Altman, "Why Plato's Idea of the Good Is Not the One"). Now for Plato (...
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Plato's Republic education system

I don't know why you imply expecting a prescriptive list of tasks by age. Education was far less formalised and systematic in his era, with children of the elite often having their own tutors able to ...
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Plato's Republic education system

It is a bit of stretch to say that Plato's Republic-(and Plato in general), established (or even popularized), the concept or policy of a mass educational system-(similar to what exists in much of the ...
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Plato's Republic education system

Plato proposed a mass education system in the Republic and not one solely for the sons of the aristocracy. To understand the success of this idea one only need note just how many countries have such a ...
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What does “being” mean in the context of Plato’s Republic?

Very useful: Charles Kahn, Some Philosophical Uses of ‘To Be’ in Plato (1981), reprinted into Essays on Being (Oxford University Press, 2009). According to the author, Plato uses the verb einai (and ...
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Looking for references to political/moral philosophy literature on communal child-rearing and the institution of the family

Some reflections, starting with definitions taken from Thomas Piketty's Capital and Ideology (2019) What Is an Ideology?, page 3-on: I use “ideology” in a positive and constructive sense to refer to ...
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What does Plato think of human nature in the Republic?

The Republic - a provisional account of the soul (psuche) : complex or simple One point useful to note is that provisionality hangs over the Republic. The Sun, Line and Cave, for example, are similes ...
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How applicable is the craft analogy for discussing the virtues, like justice?

These two underlying premises seem quite far-stretched To me, it's the attribution to Socrates of these two premises that seems a bit far-stretched. Let's examine them in order. First, it ...
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Is this an example of Ceteris Paribus?

Whether or not one is using ceteris paribus (OTHER, not ALL things being equal), doesn't seem to me to be a useful question. One may employ it specifically, but a Plato is not explicitly employing it ...
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What does Thrasymachus accuse Socrates of when stating he argues like an informer?

As recommended by Mauro ALLEGRANZA, looking at some different available translations sheds light on what might be the intended meaning here. In James Adam's translation, rather than 'informer', the ...
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