Timeline for Term of art for ontological evasion
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| May 8 at 2:07 | comment | added | Rushi | I think... thanks to these discussions I have a clearer,more positive formulation of the question. I'll add/edit it in after I wake up 😂 | |
| May 7 at 14:13 | comment | added | Rushi | Well I used to have a smoking gun but I've misplaced it... there was reference to address in version n which disappeared in n + 1. I don't want to go there because it becomes orwellian — newspeak — but we are living in such inflammatory times I'd rather avoid that line 😇. By n large I like to stick to Hanlons razor: They know not... | |
| May 7 at 13:58 | comment | added | Julio Di Egidio | Don't invoke philosophy in vain. :) "Mixing levels of abstraction" is, AFAICT, what that is. | |
| May 7 at 13:57 | comment | added | Rushi | Ok but I was hoping for a more generic (older than Spolsky!!) philosophical term | |
| May 7 at 13:55 | comment | added | Julio Di Egidio | "What if the term is absent but the concept unavoidable?" (IMO) there is no such thing: "leaky abstractions" I think you have called them, and I do think that's all those are. | |
| May 7 at 13:51 | comment | added | Rushi | If "term" is there in the spec it's there in the language. If it's not it's not. (my paraphrase). My question is fundamentally about this: What if the term is absent but the concept unavoidable? | |
| May 7 at 13:45 | comment | added | Rushi | As for para 2, I must repectfully disagree. Language designers/implementors happen to be human beings. They can make mistakes (I should know, I'm one of them Because an implementation is itself a program, one category of errors are the usual bugs programmers make. The other category are design errors. | |
| May 7 at 13:44 | comment | added | Rushi | Your point about data is very correct. +1 As Codd outlined, a data model is not properly mathematical (he called it relational) if it didn't meet some desiderata. The eighth rule is about the requirement to be independent of physical representation. | |
| May 7 at 12:48 | history | answered | Julio Di Egidio | CC BY-SA 4.0 |