Timeline for What logical preconditions would guarantee that a book is of divine origin?
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Jan 29, 2023 at 17:15 | comment | added | An_Elephant | "Because any book can be written randomly by a computer." I don't think this would apply if the books under consideration would be written before computers were manufactured. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 19:45 | comment | added | Chris Sunami | @GeoffroyCALA Any being that can create a simulated reality is effectively omnipotent with respect to that reality which is what counts inside that reality. Furthermore, it is potentially omniscient, again with respect to that reality, unless the simulation is either too complex for it to follow all the details, or it has chosen deliberately to veil some of its workings. | |
Dec 14, 2017 at 19:07 | comment | added | Geoffroy CALA | @Chris Sunami For instance, this reason: most god definitions imply that God is omnipotent and or omniscient. Super-intelligent beings (supervising a Matrix) may be very smart and powerful compared to us, but not necessarily omnipotent and / or omniscient. | |
Nov 22, 2016 at 16:07 | comment | added | Chris Sunami | On what basis would you NOT identify the super-intelligent designer of our reality with "God"? | |
Jul 6, 2015 at 15:28 | comment | added | enedil | The third one is somehow not legit. God could possibly be a super intelligent being and just for us to let us understand, told us He is not natural. | |
Jan 5, 2015 at 23:11 | vote | accept | JDH | ||
Aug 24, 2011 at 15:30 | history | edited | Geoffroy CALA | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 24, 2011 at 15:15 | comment | added | Geoffroy CALA | Yes. But I would also add coincidentally created. I you have 1000 ideas (predictions or not) in a book, there is a big chance that some of them look like future real events. If you have a reasonable doubt, then you can't ascertain with 100%. | |
Aug 24, 2011 at 15:00 | comment | added | Mitch | Oh, so it -is- your point that it would be difficult to establish authorship (at least of ideas) by a god (or -any- source), because any text -can be- randomly created or simulated, right? | |
Aug 24, 2011 at 14:22 | comment | added | Geoffroy CALA | No. Solipsism is where you are 100% sure that only your mind exists. I never said that. I just list possibilities; "any book can..." or "we could live...". The original question was to convince so with 100% certitude, I just showed that as there is no certitude, one could never convince of this fact, hence my negative answer. | |
Aug 24, 2011 at 13:58 | comment | added | Mitch | Was that your point then? It might be useful as an extreme skepticism, but then so is solipsism. | |
Aug 23, 2011 at 21:08 | history | edited | Geoffroy CALA | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 23, 2011 at 20:47 | comment | added | Mitch | That same reason justifies not believing that a book was written by a human. | |
Aug 23, 2011 at 20:22 | history | answered | Geoffroy CALA | CC BY-SA 3.0 |