Timeline for When is deception, rather than outright lying, justified? [closed]
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| Sep 23 at 19:34 | history | closed |
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| Sep 22 at 12:13 | comment | added | Gerry | Define and distinguish deception versus outright lying. Then I would recommend reading Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals to really dig into this issue. | |
| Sep 19 at 18:15 | comment | added | tkruse | Also see philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/56836/… then | |
| Sep 19 at 15:49 | history | edited | user71399 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 19 at 15:48 | comment | added | user71399 | that's the question, if deception is signicantly different @tkruse | |
| Sep 19 at 14:41 | comment | added | tkruse | This question is similar to: When is ok to tell a lie?. If you believe it’s different, please edit the question, make it clear how it’s different and/or how the answers on that question are not helpful for your problem. I don't think deception is significantly different from lying, so answers about lying should be equivalent. | |
| Sep 19 at 4:40 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Sep 19 at 0:38 | comment | added | user71399 | so there just be more occasions when it is justified @Conifold i get that, i think | |
| Sep 19 at 0:20 | comment | added | Conifold | Whenever lying is morally justified if one's ethics allows for that, like utilitarianism. It accomplishes the same ends, avoiding harm, protecting privacy, etc. Levine in Community standards of deception makes "deception is perceived to be ethical when it prevents unnecessary harm" a subtitle. Even if not, many authors rank deceptive impressions as less unethical than lying, and omissions as less unethical than impressions (for lesser "breach of trust"), see Alexander, Deception in Morality and Law. | |
| Sep 19 at 0:20 | comment | added | armand | Even if no false statement is uttered, deliberate efforts made to make people believe something false are functionaly not different from lying. Leaving a murder weapon in your rivals bedroom for someone to find it and come to the conclusion they are a murderer isn't functionaly different from accusing your rival directly. If anything, it's more effective than a lie. So your question isn't much different from "when is it justified to lie?", which can't be answered as is because there are so many different school of thoughts about morality. Kant would say "never", Betham would say "depends". | |
| Sep 18 at 23:24 | history | asked | user71399 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |