Timeline for Is there a modern, secular argument for the soul?
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Jun 12, 2014 at 3:04 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | @yters: Well, like i said I'm no expert and that comes to asking questions too :). | |
Jun 12, 2014 at 2:53 | comment | added | yters | Well, if you have a better way to ask the question, I'm game :) | |
Jun 12, 2014 at 2:51 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | @yters: I'd suggest that it has certain resemblences but that they don't specifically use the word soul. I'd say that is Rationalism rather than secularism which is orientated towards goverance and its institutions. Platos ideas have been subjected to a great-deal of differing interpretations. Some of his ideas are found in Christianity and Neo-platonism. I'm not sure that its possible to call him a rationalist as say some moerns are. I suppose in contemporary European debates one uses the notion of the 'subject'; but its difficult to be sure - I'm no expert. | |
Jun 12, 2014 at 2:32 | comment | added | yters | It's a Grecian notion too...it contains subjectivity, mentality, and the like, but the concept of the soul is that there is a non-material entity which exerts top down control on the material body. And while materialism is a secular concept, secularism is not identical to materialism. Secularism merely means ideas that are without reference to religious sources of authority. So, for example, Plato's argument for the soul in Phaedo would be a secular argument. | |
Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | Well the situation is confused; as this question is: The soul is an Abrahamic notion, yet you're asking to explain it on the basis of materialism which explicitly denies there is no such thing. I'm pointing out why people do not think why materialism is a sufficient answer; and how people have handled subjectivity & the mental within it. | |
Jun 12, 2014 at 2:18 | comment | added | yters | This is good background, but I cannot mark it as an answer since it is neither an argument for the soul, nor a demonstration that such an argument is futile. | |
Jun 12, 2014 at 2:15 | history | answered | Mozibur Ullah | CC BY-SA 3.0 |