Timeline for Is there any contemporary philosophy about the nonduality I read about on web sites?
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| Sep 27, 2019 at 18:43 | comment | added | Chris Degnen | Maybe I'm being a nondualist philosopher. | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 17:26 | comment | added | user20253 | I don't mean to be merely awkward or annoying but have a problem in that I cannot connect your answer or comments with the OPs question about nondualist philosophers. Alitzer is interesting and relevant but he is not a nondualist philosopher and does not claim to be, and he does not explain this philosophy, albeit his ideas are definitely in the ball-park. Not arguing with what you say but just suggesting it is not much to do with the nondual philosophy. I'll make this the last comment since the system says I should and this all I had to say. . | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 16:23 | comment | added | Chris Degnen | @PeterJ Thomas Altizer probably deals with this quite specifically. My own observations on the method of separating the realistic spiritual elements out of magical religion follow a similar direction, but only to show appeals to the supernatural are not necessary. I'm not out to write-off the supernatural. | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 16:06 | comment | added | user20253 | Okay. But this is not about non-dualism as a philosophy or explanation of the world. . | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 15:59 | comment | added | Chris Degnen | @PeterJ No problem. The duality is ambiguous, but is presumably between realistic Spirituality and supernatural Religion. So I reference a realistic definition of 'spirit' to show how a central religious idea can be given a more realistic take. I quote Derrida quoting Heidegger and add examples from Old English (Beowulf) to elaborate on the meaning of 'spirit' taken in a non-magical, realistic and down-to-earth way. | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 15:34 | comment | added | user20253 | I'm sorry but I don't understand your comment. Mine could have been a lot more clear. My quibble was that Derrida is not known for knowing anything about this topic and does not claim to do so, so he is an odd reference and there is no other given. It's hard enough to get into this topic at the best of times and thinking Derrida is a useful starting point might make it impossible, so I was prompted to make a critical comment. I should have made it more clearly. . . | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 14:24 | comment | added | Chris Degnen | @PeterJ Are you in effect asking for philosophers who endorse atheism? I could suggest Thomas Altizer. However, I would mention that even Buddha only sought to bring discussion down to earth, so I offer a down-to-earth interpretation of the meaning of 'spirit'. We can do Spirituality Without Religion. Nevertheless it doesn't necessarily mean these authors don't harbour thoughts of a reality beyond the down-to-earth. Is that the duality of Religion here? | |
| Sep 27, 2019 at 13:20 | comment | added | user20253 | 'Chris - I would not want to downvote but feel it would have been better to mention only philosophers who endorse the nondual view.and show some understanding of it. Your point about there being no duality so no nonduality is subtle and it echoes Nagarjuna's point about the term 'Middle Way', that it is unnecessary since there are no other ways, but terms like 'Middle Way' and 'advaita' make it clear that for this view Reality is 'not-two' and so are extremely useful. . . . . , | |
| Dec 17, 2015 at 14:03 | comment | added | Chris Degnen | I mean at least some philosophers are in nondualist territory, even when they address 'non-science' topics that may ordinarily appear to be dualistic ones. | |
| Dec 17, 2015 at 13:40 | comment | added | user16869 | So for Philosophers, Nonduality is beneath consideration, like asking the mathematician what the plus sign means. OK. Thank you. No wonder they are all so far ahead of everyone else. Maybe we could discuss the issue of purpose and happiness. But those are solved problems for Philosophers also, I suspect. Like the ancient Brahmins that Alexander the Great met. | |
| Dec 17, 2015 at 13:23 | comment | added | Chris Degnen | From a quick look it does appear Harris's duality is science vs supernatural. My point shows that even spirit can be 'treated' non-supernaturally leaving everything nondual. In such philosophy there is no duality, so the topic of 'nonduality' doesn't arise. | |
| Dec 17, 2015 at 13:04 | comment | added | user16869 | I know someone who likes at least some of what she read in Derrida, I have not encountered his writing. From what I see here, he is a Neo, and so is probably comprehensible only to himself. I was not really interested in religion, theology, or what is normally called spirituality. I am interested in the experience of nonduality, which is growing and widespread, and now, with Harris' book, in the mainstream. I only wondered if this subject is applicable to Philosophy as well. So that I could bring it up here. But it seems that if it was Philosophy, someone would already be discussing it. | |
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