Timeline for What are some criticisms of Epicurus' "death is nothing to us"?
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Sep 23, 2018 at 12:28 | answer | added | Yechiam Weiss | timeline score: 0 | |
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Jan 23, 2017 at 0:35 | comment | added | user9166 | Where our death is we won't be, so we had better not have opinions on what happens there, or we will be disappointed about our lack of ability to encourage them to happen, while we are still alive. When we have a will to power and lack power, our will is thwarted. Epicurus and Gautama have a lot in common: an honest Epicurean, at peace with death, would first have to attain detachment, and die into nirvanna. | |
Jan 22, 2017 at 5:24 | comment | added | user6917 | @NelsonAlexander would totally like an answer from anyone !!! :) | |
Jan 22, 2017 at 5:24 | comment | added | user6917 | @jobermark just wondered if theres any sense to say that death is nothing for us, but where death is we will be? maybe sounds to crazy | |
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Oct 17, 2016 at 7:43 | answer | added | Harvey Meale | timeline score: 1 | |
Oct 6, 2015 at 13:09 | comment | added | Nelson Alexander | Again, as a physicalist, Epicurus claims there is no "mind or experience after death." Yet as a Stoic, he aserts some transcendental reasoning that accounts for this knowledge of events in the absolute "absence of all experience." Presumably, he has never died. Nor acquired this knowledge from someone who did. This is why I say below he falls squarely afoul of Kant's limits on the judgments of "pure reason" and offers a classic antinomy. | |
Oct 6, 2015 at 12:47 | comment | added | Nelson Alexander | Not at all. Of course we are dealing with experiences on the normal "fear" side of the issue. But logically what we are "afraid of" is not that which already happened to Captain Hook, but that possible second bite which is still anticipated. Epicurus refers to an eventuality which, by his own definition, is an absolute absence of all experience. Yet he maintains we can draw a logical inference as to whether or not to "fear" it. My point concurs with yours. Total absence of experience is not a logical basis for such judgments. | |
Oct 5, 2015 at 20:08 | comment | added | John Am | @Nelson Alexander. So by your "logic" if a crocodile eat one hand of you, and after some years you encounter another crocodile that is ready to eat your second hand then you will experience no fear because you are aware of such an experience? Please my friend... | |
Oct 5, 2015 at 19:07 | comment | added | user9166 | OK, so no one who has never fallen 50 feet cannot fear heights. I think that is too lame even for a presocratic hermit. We constantly fear many things outside our experience. | |
Oct 5, 2015 at 19:05 | comment | added | Nelson Alexander | See other answer below. His assumption is "fears" arise from and within "experience," therefore the absence of experience cannot be a rational source of fear. But fear is, by definition, an anticipation of something unexperienced, not the effect of an experience. | |
Oct 5, 2015 at 19:05 | comment | added | user9166 | Death may be nothing to us, but it is also the loss of all of our potential future actions. So it is surely not nothing to the world around us. Anyone who could not fear death would already have abandoned active, or even passive, engagement in the world. | |
Oct 5, 2015 at 18:57 | answer | added | Nelson Alexander | timeline score: 0 | |
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