Timeline for Is the idea of the word of God a means to understand human nature, and prayer?
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Aug 17, 2017 at 10:23 | comment | added | user20253 | I've often wondered about the saying that the meek shall inherit the Earth. It could mean that if we are meek we will be stuck on Earth and unable to get to Heaven. If the remark had no context or appeared in a more obviously esoteric text this is how I would interpret it. Rather, we should be 'spiritual warriors'. I have no idea which is correct interpretation but I also would like to know whether 'meek' is an exact translation. One of my first 'aha' moments as a youth was discovering the 'virgin' is not a necessary translation and anyway at the time did not have its modern meaning. | |
Aug 17, 2017 at 4:20 | comment | added | user28117 | fear death by water :) @MoziburUllah | |
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Aug 14, 2017 at 20:29 | comment | added | Gordon | @MoziburUllah very true about the hanged god. I tend to get carried away with my speculations, it comes from reading too much, and making connections where there probably are none. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 20:04 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | @gordan: it's easy enough to do, I've done it on a few occasion too; I think the notion of a 'hanged god' is a recurrent motif in myth, ie as a kind of fertility mythos, replenishing the earth etc. I hadn't thought of the Bacchae in that manner, but it does throw some interesting perspectives on the whole. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 19:53 | comment | added | Gordon | @MoziburUllah I appreciate your responses. I'm glad to know that someone else has thought about some of these things. I wanted you to know that sometimes I get in a hurry and I don't bother to put the @ name in. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 18:48 | history | edited | Gordon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 14, 2017 at 18:40 | comment | added | Gordon | I don't know if Jesus intended to lose the day. An extra-cannononical Gospel, the Gospel of Judas, suggests that he did intend to lose i.e. To be crucified in the end. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 18:30 | comment | added | Gordon | In personally think that before Jesus began his public ministry, he or someone in his group had access to some version of Euripides play: The Bacchae. In the play Dionysus the bull wins the day, and x (the law) is lifted up on a tree, dropped, torn to pieces and eaten. In th New Testament, Dionysus the feminine meek side loses the day, Jesus is lifted up on a tree, and is eaten every week at church, communion. The law lost in the Bacchae, the law (the Jews) won in a the crucifixion story. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 18:23 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | @Gordan: that's what I've supposed; and just as interestingly, from what he said he didn't have much time for his own followers either, and he said this before he found followers! | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 18:15 | comment | added | Gordon | Interestingly, Nietzsche said the only Christian died on the cross. I don't know German, so I don't know if this is the exact literal translation. If so, Dionysus was crucified. I think Nietzsche actually approved of Christ himself, but he did not approve of the followers, the Christians. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 18:11 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | I think the remark about the Jewish faith also goes for Islam too. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 18:04 | comment | added | Gordon | I don't even know if the word "meek" is directly related to Jesus in the New Testament i.e. A sentence that says ...Jesus was meek. He did supposedly say the meek shall inherit the earth. Wheras the Jews always required Justice and Mercy together, at least Paul's Jesus would allow just mercy(grace). All this mercy may be seen as meek. Of course Jesus said turn the other cheek I think. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 17:46 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | And if not, what word in the English lexicon is best suited to replace it, it's more than likely several words with different semantic ranges would be req'd. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 17:42 | comment | added | Mozibur Ullah | +1: It makes me want to enquire what word was translated as meek, and whether this translation is still apposite. | |
Aug 14, 2017 at 17:23 | history | edited | Gordon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 14, 2017 at 17:18 | history | answered | Gordon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |