Timeline for Is the idea of the word of God a means to understand human nature, and prayer?
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| Aug 19, 2017 at 17:20 | comment | added | Gordon | No I agree not primarily as prayer. The intent of the verses is to establish this extremely important relationship of the sign (word, logos, sign) to God, not just as referring to God as son but in co-being with him and carrier of the son. What impressed me was that 056 had come across in his/her own thinking this co-being say in the the words of prayer or words with others, as a type of co-being, not just words but being, with them. This reminded me of the much later John of St. Thomas in some ways. | |
| Aug 19, 2017 at 17:03 | comment | added | Gordon | The logos here is more than a sign, it has co-being with the son and carries him into the world. Frankly, the logos is to us the Son until he comes again. A mysterious thing, at least to me. | |
| Aug 19, 2017 at 16:56 | comment | added | James Shewey | @user3293056 I understand - what I'm saying is that the Word of God can't be a mechanism of prayer unless that's how Philo defined Logos. I don't really see that in Philo's writings. John is definitely saying through the Logos all things were made and that logos became flesh and was called Jesus, but I don't see that Philo/John viewed that to be a mechanism of prayer and I doubt john thought something as ethereal as prayer could become incarnate. It seems he viewed Logos more concretely. | |
| Aug 19, 2017 at 16:50 | comment | added | Gordon | I am glad you came here and answered also. I think that the logos is key here. I would give it a more mystical character in this context at the beginning of John's Gospel. The sign of the word is in co-communication, co-being with God as son. It's hard to put into words what I'm saying. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos_(Christianity) may throw some light on what I had in mind. | |
| Aug 19, 2017 at 15:41 | comment | added | user28117 | thank James. in the question i was asking about the word of god as a mechanism of prayer, or perhaps the "through him all things were made" as prayer. thanks for the answer tho | |
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| Aug 19, 2017 at 7:29 | history | answered | James Shewey | CC BY-SA 3.0 |