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What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as political philosophies (and ideas of ideal societies etc.) put forward by:

  • Hobbes
  • Locke
  • ...

And "practiced" by people.


By truth context I mean a context of concepts, measures etc. that allow understanding of truth and accuracy. So if we were given a statement that expresses something and relies on some of these philosophies + maybe something else (the measures etc.), then we would be able to infer the "truthfulness" of such statement.

So what is this context?

What are the measures?


Some problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy:

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type", meaning that it contains very objective notions (subjective-intersubjective sense: https://noncontradictingpolitics.blogspot.com/2019/09/criticism-of-value-judgements.html, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as political philosophies (and ideas of ideal societies etc.) put forward by:

  • Hobbes
  • Locke
  • ...

And "practiced" by people.


By truth context I mean a context of concepts, measures etc. that allow understanding of truth and accuracy. So if we were given a statement that expresses something and relies on some of these philosophies + maybe something else (the measures etc.), then we would be able to infer the "truthfulness" of such statement.

So what is this context?

What are the measures?


Some problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy:

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as political philosophies (and ideas of ideal societies etc.) put forward by:

  • Hobbes
  • Locke
  • ...

And "practiced" by people.


By truth context I mean a context of concepts, measures etc. that allow understanding of truth and accuracy. So if we were given a statement that expresses something and relies on some of these philosophies + maybe something else (the measures etc.), then we would be able to infer the "truthfulness" of such statement.

So what is this context?

What are the measures?


Some problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy:

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type", meaning that it contains very objective notions (subjective-intersubjective sense: https://noncontradictingpolitics.blogspot.com/2019/09/criticism-of-value-judgements.html, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

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What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies? Can one infer whether some belief/philosophy is true? How?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as political philosophies (and ideas of ideal societies etc.) put forward by:

  • HobbesianHobbes
  • LockeanLocke
  • ...

BasicallyAnd "practiced" by people.


By truth context I mean a setcontext of ideasconcepts, measures etc. that aim to describe "some ideal society"allow understanding of truth and accuracy. As someoneSo if we were given a statement that expresses something and relies on some of these philosophies + maybe something else (the measures etc.), then we would endeavor things to be able to infer the "truthfulness" of such statement.

FewSo what is this context?

What are the measures?


Some problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy?:

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

Therefore, what's the truth context of societal philosophies? That is, what does it depend on to be able to say "societal philosophy A is true/accurate"? Does it need to be true/accurate? Does it need to be accurate in some particular sense? Is "idealist truth" enough (i.e. analytic truth)?

Bonus: can one devise a scientific method for inferring, when a societal belief/philosophy is true?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies? Can one infer whether some belief/philosophy is true?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as:

  • Hobbesian
  • Lockean
  • ...

Basically a set of ideas that aim to describe "some ideal society". As someone would endeavor things to be.

Few problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy?

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

Therefore, what's the truth context of societal philosophies? That is, what does it depend on to be able to say "societal philosophy A is true/accurate"? Does it need to be true/accurate? Does it need to be accurate in some particular sense? Is "idealist truth" enough (i.e. analytic truth)?

Bonus: can one devise a scientific method for inferring, when a societal belief/philosophy is true?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies? Can one infer whether some belief/philosophy is true? How?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as political philosophies (and ideas of ideal societies etc.) put forward by:

  • Hobbes
  • Locke
  • ...

And "practiced" by people.


By truth context I mean a context of concepts, measures etc. that allow understanding of truth and accuracy. So if we were given a statement that expresses something and relies on some of these philosophies + maybe something else (the measures etc.), then we would be able to infer the "truthfulness" of such statement.

So what is this context?

What are the measures?


Some problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy:

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

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What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies? Can one infer whether some belief/philosophy is true?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as:

  • Hobbesian
  • Lockean
  • ...

Basically a set of ideas that aim to describe "some ideal society". As someone would endeavor things to be.

Few problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy?

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

Therefore, what's the truth context of societal philosophies? That is, what does it depend on to be able to say "societal philosophy A is true/accurate"? Does it need to be true/accurate? Does it need to be accurate in some particular sense? Is "idealist truth" enough (i.e. analytic truth)?

Bonus: can one devise a scientific method for inferring, when a societal belief/philosophy is true?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as:

  • Hobbesian
  • Lockean
  • ...

Basically a set of ideas that aim to describe "some ideal society". As someone would endeavor things to be.

Few problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy?

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias?

  • ...

Therefore, what's the truth context of societal philosophies? That is, what does it depend on to be able to say "societal philosophy A is true/accurate"? Does it need to be true/accurate? Does it need to be accurate in some particular sense? Is "idealist truth" enough (i.e. analytic truth)?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies? Can one infer whether some belief/philosophy is true?

What's the "truth context" of societal philosophies?

Such as:

  • Hobbesian
  • Lockean
  • ...

Basically a set of ideas that aim to describe "some ideal society". As someone would endeavor things to be.

Few problems in defining a truth context of a societal philosophy?

  • They express "out-subject experiences", normative statements (what ought), possibly a priori. A societal idea is a "subjective-led perception", yet its realization would depend on whether others adapt to it.

  • If the philosophy is not of "fundamental type" meaning that it contains very objective notions, then what does the adaptation depend on? Mere social constructionism?

  • What is the point of social constructionist societal phenomena? Do they include motives, biases, ...

  • Are they relative to subjective bias? I.e. different people may hold different justified belief.

  • ...

Therefore, what's the truth context of societal philosophies? That is, what does it depend on to be able to say "societal philosophy A is true/accurate"? Does it need to be true/accurate? Does it need to be accurate in some particular sense? Is "idealist truth" enough (i.e. analytic truth)?

Bonus: can one devise a scientific method for inferring, when a societal belief/philosophy is true?

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