Timeline for With how much certainty can one define something as alive and sentient,or inanimate and non-sentient?
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| Dec 6, 2022 at 20:19 | comment | added | Dcleve | @AdamLedger -- What you are describing is how our analog/neural-net processing works, which is intuitive and often based on analogies and which is often unconscious, or at least not either rational/explicit. There are excellent neurologically based books that describe how our neural net processing works, a good one is Churchland's The Engine of Reason. We have basically TWO methods of problem solving, the second is slower, and explicitly stepwise logical. This is called System 2, in Thinking Fast and Slow. You have a very well trained neural net to solve math problems, but it IS intuitive | |
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| Nov 29, 2022 at 18:03 | answer | added | Dcleve | timeline score: 1 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 17:41 | comment | added | Adam Ledger | i spend hours looking at number patterns, and at some point come across one i find interesting, then arrive at an equality that defines the observation. I then go about the task of framing this as if it were a logical conclusion, to deepen my understanding foremost, but as far as my sharing of it in the stack exchange community, i attempt to present a farce that my conclusions came from an educated well defined thought process, i know this is false, but my conclusions factual. sure it was deceptive to do so, but it seems the world prefers deception to honesty, as far as i have experienced | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 17:30 | comment | added | Adam Ledger | So what would you consider "using" mathematics with no conscious thought to be? If you are to disregard instinct as a qualifier for sentience, then I personally fail this definition. In the vast majority of my questions in the mathematics community, I found the answer then worked backwards and presented it as a question in my posts in order for it to be accepted. But the truth is most of my learning has an intuitive foundation. I knew this to be something that isn't considered real, so i framed my questions in a way that mimics normal logic | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 16:19 | comment | added | Dcleve | Spiders made webs instinctively, so web making is not a sign of sentience. They figure out where to make them, and learn how to make better webs, the learning is a sign of sentience. Instinctive web making is not based on knowing mathematics. Neither is learning how to make better ones. | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 12:58 | comment | added | D. Halsey | If they don't use mathematics on a conscious level, I don't think you can say they use mathematics at all. You yourself might use math in describing what they have done , but that's not the same thing. | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 10:47 | comment | added | Adam Ledger | They most definitely are using mathematics to make their, web, so my question is more do we consider something sentient only when it is capable of communicating an understanding of the abilities it has demonstrated? | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 10:41 | comment | added | Adam Ledger | not on a conscious level no, but indeed some kind of learning process occurs out of necessity | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:29 | comment | added | D. Halsey | "The demonstrated ability in applied mathematics of the average arachnid is exceeding superior" What makes you think spiders use mathematics when they spin their webs? Do infant children need to use mechanics before they can learn to walk? | |
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