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Zizek often draws on Lacan’s term “the Big Other”; what is this and what does it mean?

One supposes that there may also then be a “Little Other” - is this right?

What would be sensible examples of either kind?

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    @celtschk:Possibly not; perhaps a freudian slip, if one can still believe in that sort of thing; Zizeks sublime object of ideology does make the case for the equation Big Other=Big Brother; though that equals sign should be taken informally. Commented Aug 24, 2014 at 21:39
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    Is 'the Big Other' quantified Other? Or is it a categorical Other--like Capital "A"rt?
    – xtian
    Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 18:28
  • @xtian: i don't think so; it comes from lacan; one defines oneself in contrast to an 'other'; Said uses this in his argument in Orientalism, by suggesting the West, in part, defines itself against the East Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 19:15
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    this exists plato.stanford.edu/entries/lacan and may help
    – user6917
    Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 19:41
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    Is this like the body without organs? I love this postmodern stuff. Can you supply some context for us ignorami? What's a big other, and can you give an example please?
    – user4894
    Commented Aug 26, 2014 at 0:38

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Well, the examples you offer seem to be oppositions...East v. West, a discourse that valorizes belief v. a discourse that valorizes knowledge, and man v. woman. The “Big Other” is the symbolic texture of human subjectivity, whence come norms, expectations, desires, prohibitions, regimes of representation, guaranties of meaning, and many other things.

The "Other" in Big Other can be distracting; it tends to personify, if not caricature, what I described in the previous sentence. I think that many people tend to think of the Big Other as a Big (br)Other, which is a mistake. The Big Other is purely virtual, and of it Lacan would often say that it doesn’t exist (he would also say “there is no Other of the Other,” which was a way of saying that there is no metalanguage that could provide a guarantee to our meanings).

Regarding the relation between man and woman, it is reasonable to see them as being little others for each other; in some ways this is accurate, but I think only in a superficial way. The relation between little others is, one some level, always one of narcissism, aggression, and competition. If you think about it, to some extent, this pertains to all relations between all individuals.

But the relation between ‘man’ and ‘woman,’ this is something a little different... I think that lacanians would tend to speak of one as being the symptom of the other, and I think the same is true for the relation between Orient and Occident. As to the relation between Religion and Philosophy, I don’t know.

  • Since little others can be thought of as neighbors, fellow citizens, enemies, friends, peers, or lovers, and Big Others can be thought of as collections of social conventions, codes, norms, laws, etc., why shouldn't we simply abandon the lacanian parlance and call little others 'persons' and Big Others 'cultures'? What is it that makes the other "other"?

    What is it that grounds the Other's (or other's) alterity, that makes it fundamentally unassimilable?

    Jouissance.

Here is a link to an article by J.A. Miller that addresses this idea.

http://www.lacan.com/symptom/?p=36

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  • The "little other" is the Big Other of the Big Other, ie, the little other is any "other" that doesn't qualify as Big Other. Commented Aug 8, 2016 at 20:37
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this wiki site is a good Lacan resource, at least - I have encountered it a few times.

http://nosubject.com/index.php?title=Other

The big Other designates radical alterity, an otherness which transcends the illusory otherness of the imaginary because it cannot be assimilated through identification. Lacan equates the big Other with language and the law, and hence the big Other is inscribed in the symbolic order.

So the little other

is inscribed in the imaginary order as both the counterpart and the specular image.

The imaginary is the realm of image and imagination, deception and lure

and so the other is what we imagine other people to be, whereas the Other is their symbolic existence - which is the Otherness that operates within the law.

The law is

the set of universal principles which make social existence possible

and so, the Other is the Other that we interact and are obliged to, etc..

It may help, if this just seems like STUFF, to read an article or two of Lacan's and see how he uses these concepts. E.g. in the purloined letter.

The first is a glance that sees nothing: the King and the police. The second, a glance which sees that the first sees nothing and deludes itself as to the secrecy of what it hides: the Queen, then the Minister. The third sees that the first two glances leave what should be hidden exposed to whoever would seize it: the Minister, and finally Dupin.

I read the first glance to be the imaginary, the second glance the symbolic, and the third the real. But it was quite some time ago and I should add the caveat that I have been told I was wrong there, by a fan of Zzizek.

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The Big Other is simply the symbolic order as it exists for an individual subject (language, law, culture, etc.)

And yes, there is a little other as well. The little others are essentially other individuals.

Lacan writes them "Other" and "other" (Autre/autre in french).

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    As an example, Said writes of the Orient as the Big Other for the Occident; does this count as one? Hegel, posits a dynamic between Religion and Philosophy, are they big others for each other? Does the other of a man, as a gender, a woman, operate as a Big Other or as a little other? Commented Jan 26, 2015 at 12:23
  • Since little others can be thought of as neighbors, fellow citizens, enemies, friends, peers, or lovers, and Big Others can be thought of as collections of social conventions, codes, norms, laws, etc., why shouldn't we simply abandon the lacanian parlance and call little others 'persons' and Big Others 'cultures'?
    – matt
    Commented Apr 6, 2015 at 18:24
  • To this I should have added: What is it that makes the other "other"? What is it that grounds the Other's (or other's) alterity?
    – matt
    Commented Apr 6, 2015 at 18:36
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It's not who but what. Thinking about it, I have come to simplify the concept as something toward whose real or, most often, imagined expectations one makes appearances. Any religion, ideology, authority figure, creed or cause can be this thing. Also, social pressure, for those who feel its coercion, is literally this thing.

In other words, the big other is always and everywhere a crutch of sorts to an immature individual, whose mental point of reference is by definition more outside than internal, as there is little or no internal, self-sufficient material built up in such a person.

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  • If you have references to Zizek or Lacan or someone taking a similar view this would support your answer and give the reader a place to go for more information. Commented Jun 13, 2019 at 11:34
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Is not The Big Other an imaginary "idea" that has in itself a sort of felt subjectivity and a "voice," a point of view? For example, when I say "America dictates that we strive to achieve our best goals," am I not personifying America, which is here a culturual-social-political-economic entity with a specific point of view that "speaks" to me as if it were an actual person? It thus has a Gaze in the form of "The American Gaze" which perceives other cultures or people or values in a certain way, as if it had a consciousness. Feminists make much of the term Masculinity. Is not Masculinity here a Big Other with a history, a point of view, a system of knowledge, and a Gaze? Any abstract concept that has a "voice" and pressures us with its regard is The Big Other. Academia, Philosophy, History, Economics, Science, Humanity, Medicine...are these not all Big Othrs?

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…the Lacanian "big Other," the virtual symbolic order, the network that structures reality for us. This dimension of the "big Other" is that of the constitutive alienation of the subject in the symbolic order: the big Other pulls the strings, the subject doesn't speak, he "is spoken" by the symbolic structure. In short, this "big Other" is the name for the social Substance, for all that on account of which the subject never fully dominates the effects of his acts, i.e. on account of which the final outcome of his activity is always something else with regard to what he aimed at or anticipated.

The "big Other's" inexistence is ultimately equivalent to Its being the symbolic order, the order of symbolic fictions which operate at a level different from direct material causality. (In this sense, the only subject for whom the big Other does exist is the psychotic, the one who attributes to words direct material efficiency.)

The Big Other is any kind of latent concept in a cultural context which acts like a subliminal “total force” against which people frame themselves. It could be Nature or God or Destiny, for example. Zizek apparently finds the phenomenon recurrent in various narrative contexts.

The little Other is something that a person, motivated by psychological drives, desires, because they feel they lack it. It could be something as simple as an unattainable romance.

Zizek is relating the psychology of the subconscious as an explanatory mechanism for human behavior, with the fact that we exist in a context of human concepts (or, “symbols”), which are deeply intertwined with one another. Thus, he argues that the way various concepts relate to each other can actually explain human behavior, and this applies as much to fictional contexts and dreams as the real world, since both are something like “symbolic orchestrations”, or “narratives”.

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