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Assume that Bob is truly an expert in field A. He can voice strong opinions about A and his ideas are considered valid or worthy of consideration by all other experts of field A. Bob also believes that he is an expert in a totally unrelated field B. However he is not taken seriously by the experts of B. Still, Bob dismisses authorities of B by quoting himself.

If I quote Bob about something that falls on field B, it becomes appeal to false authority, because Bob is not an authority in B. If I dismiss authorities of B by stating that Bob is better than them because of his accomplishments in field A, it becomes appeal to accomplishment.

However, in my question Bob himself appeals to himself. The belief that expertise is transitive to other fields is obviously some sort of fallacy or cognitive bias.

I believe that it is not really Dunning-Kruger, because Bob, who is not an expert in field B still has a good understanding of the field B. He knows how deep field B goes, but still does not mind making sharp remarks about the field.

A better way to describe it would be successful natural scientists believing that they are well equipped to make assertions about social sciences. A more direct example is Celal Sengor, a world renowned Turkish geologist believes he is entitled to make strong assertions in philosophy like "Marx is stupid" or "Thesis-antithesis-synthesis is logically absurd."

My guesses from my long Wikipedia and Google searches are bias blindspot or false uniqueness bias. Yet, I don't think they stick well.

What kind of fallacy/cognitive bias is this way of thinking?

I am not sure if this is a fallacy or a cognitive bias, so I wanted to tag both of them.

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    Like actors with political opinions. People whose profession is to be good at repeating words written by others come to believe that their own words are profound. And the public takes them seriously. It's a fallacy for sure. Hero worship, fame worship, something like that.
    – user4894
    Commented Dec 30, 2021 at 1:13
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    Appeal to irrelevant/false authority:"An example of the fallacy of appealing to an authority in an unrelated field would be citing Albert Einstein as an authority for a determination on religion when his primary expertise was in physics".
    – Conifold
    Commented Dec 31, 2021 at 7:33
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    Once again, your examples do not fit your explanation of what is going on. Celal Sengor is not entitled to make strong assertions in philosophy because he is a world-renowned geologist, but because he is a human being. I doubt he has ever claimed that his success in geology is what qualifies him to comment on philosophy. If you asked him what qualifies him, he would probably tell you that he is intelligent and well-read in the topic. His lack of academic credentials does not disqualify him. Commented Dec 31, 2021 at 22:03
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    You are building a straw man of the vaccine skeptics too. Commented Jan 3, 2022 at 4:03
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    Perhaps Celal Sengor is simply being deliberately provocative in saying e.g. "Marx is stupid" or "Thesis-antithesis-synthesis is logically absurd." so that someone who knows better might educate him specifically on the point. If no-one steps up he may conclude for the time being that his relatively uninformed conjecture holds water. In that case his approach would be a form of experimentation. Commented Aug 17 at 9:28

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Often people who attain expertise in a certain field have a certain stature and authority and this gives them a platform. Often people are then interested their opinion in matters related closely or tangentially to that field or even further afield if they have a media presence.

For example, a cosmologist working on exoplanets might be asked about the James Webb telescope even though this telescope isn't designed for seaching for exoplanets or climate change. Of course, one can see the rationale here. Exoplanets are in space, and cosmologists study space and whilst a cosmologist is not a climate scientist he is scientist and should be able to explain the scientific consensus if not the detailed rationale.

Of course its possible that people abuse the privileges that come along with having a platform, many do and also many don't. I think this danger is more common with people with a media presence because then they're often expected to give their opinion on a wide range of matters as they're seen as a spokesperson. Here, part of the responsibility is on the interviewer to ask appropriate questions and also on the audience to understand to what degree of factuality one can hold him to. After all, if an interviewer asks the cosmologist his opinion of Bob Dylans last album and he said he didn't like it much. This ought to be understood as a statement of personal opinion, rather than of objective fact.

Richard Dawkins was trained as an evolutionary biologist. And he write a series of popular books on evolution where he also smuggled in and evangalised his brand of hardcore militant atheism. Mary Midgely accused accused Richard Dawkins of a poor grasp of philosophy when he explained why genes were 'selfish'. Ethically speaking they aren't selfish simply because they aren't alive. Zoologists borrowed the word from ethics and changed its meaning.

This happens quite frequently, another example is work which physicists borrowed ordinary language to describe the work done by gravity when a ball falls from a tower even though gravity isn't working with a shovel or putting on a suit and tie and going to the office to work.

Finally, I think it's a cognitive bias to think that all mistakes in thinking should come named as a fallacy.

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  • This answer might be correct. It will definitely be correct by default if no one else suggests something. But your examples are very dissimilar to my question. Bob Dylan example would hold only if the cosmologist responds with "Bob Dylan is stupid and anyone who likes Bob Dylan is worthless." Dawkins still wrote about evolution. not about religion or philosophy. I don't think he assumes that his strong religious beliefs are scientific facts. His presumed misuse of the word might fall into pathetic fallacy at best.
    – ck1987pd
    Commented Dec 30, 2021 at 0:58
  • @C. Koca: No, its not right by default if one-one suggests anything else. If you think that, then you haven't understood the category of truth or what it signifies at all. You are also wrong to say my example would only hold if the cosmologist said "Bob Dylan is stupid" because that's insulting and which we can see if he turned around to his host and said, "you're stupid". In that situation, the interviewer eould be well within his rights to kick him out of the studio. Dawkins wrote implicity about religion when he evangalised his athiest creed. Have you not come across his book ... Commented Dec 30, 2021 at 1:12
  • @C. Koca: ... The God Delusion? He's saying anyone religious is stupid which is pretty insulting and he calls religion 'a virus', which is even more so. One might as well say science is a hand-maiden to violence and genocide given how technology is implicit in the violence, war and genocides of the 20C. Commented Dec 30, 2021 at 1:15
  • Well, in my question, I explicitly gave the example where a famous geologist calls Marx stupid and says thesis-antithesis-synthesis is logically absurd. He doesn't just make a mild remark like "I don't find Marxism realistic" or "Historical materialism doesn't look consistent". This is why Bob Dylan example only holds if it is insulting to Dylan and accusing people who likes him. Otherwise, any cosmologist is entitled to their own musical taste. Neither asking a scientist about their musical taste, nor answering it within reason is irresponsible.
    – ck1987pd
    Commented Dec 30, 2021 at 1:23
  • Since I am asking about existence of something and you respond to it by "it doesn't exist", unless someone else suggests something, my question becomes concluded by "it doesn't exist". This is what I mean by by default. I never read the God Delusion, but from what you wrote, it looks like a good example. Dawkins, due to his accomplishments as a scientist, believes he can make strong remarks about religion. This should be a bias as well.
    – ck1987pd
    Commented Dec 30, 2021 at 1:31

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