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is there any inconsistancy if i claim thing-in-itselmselves are giving our mind "causality"?

i'm simply testing this out the "problem of affection" in kant happens because kant says causality is an apriori knowledge can't we just say, thing-in-itself gives us "causality" ...
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Problem of Affection in Kant's Thing in themselves as Causes, Neo Kantians and Post Kantians Responses

We all know "the problem of affection" raised by Schulze: "if causality is apriori structure of the mind and exist inside the mind, how can we claim thing-in-themselves cause phenomena ...
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Which of the following are examples of Kantian noumena?

Which of the following are examples of Kantian noumena? a) Higgs boson particle b) A table c) A newly discovered planet d) All and none of the above [Mel Thompson - Philosophy in a week] The answer ...
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Are noumena and phenomena relativistic concepts?

God , soul can be considered noumena , existing as thing in itself ,and while what we perceive through six senses can be called phenomena. However I can say that what we perceive through six senses is ...
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Is God a noumenon? And why?

Is God a noumenon and why God is considered a noumenon? If I have personally experienced God then is it a noumenon or phenomenon from my point of view ?
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Is the law “matter attracts matter” a noumenon?

There is a law of gravity and it can be expressed as "matter attracts matter". Whether it is the matter of earth or sun or stars or atoms or dark matter etc , the law always holds. My ...
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Why does Immanuel Kant never doubt the existence of matter and external world themselves?

Why does Immanuel Kant never doubt the existence of matter and external world themselves? Does he presuppose their existence? If so, why? What I mean to ask is according to Immanuel Kant if we know ...
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Matter and form vs. noumena and phenomena

Aristotle says that the objects of experience are made up of matter which has taken up a form. This can be understood in a fairly unremarkable sense: in a statue of Aphrodite, the matter is marble, ...
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What is the difference between the thing-in-itself and substance? (Kant)

I have thought about this for a long time, but unfortunately still do not manage to understand how exactly the thing in itself differs from substance. I am aware that the thing in itself is something ...
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Where does the type of practical reason fit into Kant's layered terminology?

At one point in the first Critique, Kant shoots off this list of stipulative definitions: We are in no want of words to denominate adequately every mode of representation, without the necessity of ...
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Help reconstructing argument

I saw the following argument in Paul Guyer's text "Kant" (Routledge). I am trying to reconstruct it, yet am not sure the of the form of the argument. Can anyone provide help? If whenever ...
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Do noumena exist only if we are modal nihilists?

At face value, it's difficult to translate the two discussions/terms, but is the "nothingness" of noumenon an empty world? Do noumenon exist only with modal nihilism, the view that there is ...
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Can something be noumenal for me and not for you?

Can something be noumenal for me and not for you? My example is death. I can't think of much else that I can never perceive but we are certain exists. From the Encyclopaedia Britannica: Kant’s ...
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Is Hume talking about noumena in section 12 of the Enquiry?

So I'm almost done with the Enquiry and came across something in this section that reminded me of Kant's phenomena and noumena. If this is the case, I'm just curious, why hadn't anyone made this ...
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Does a phenomenal experience require conscious awareness, or simply unconscious sensation?

If a tree is experienced lying on the forest floor, did it come into existence when experienced, or did something cause it to lie there? This question is all about the division between phenomenal, ...
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What is the difference between the “thing in itself” and noumena?

“Things in themselves” and noumena are similar in Kantian metaphysics (Critique of Pure Reason, mostly) and interchangeable much of the time. The phenomena/noumena divide is integral to Kantian ...
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Kant vs Scientific Rationalism - Do we need the Ding an Sich

I actually like Kant's distinction between noumena and phenomena. But I have a nagging doubt. If we look at modern physics, appearances can be explained by entities such as atoms, electrons and quarks ...
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Is there a word or term for the inability to separate what is phenomenal from noumenal?

Phenomenal includes everything originating from personal experience, while Noumenal includes everything except personal experience; something is Ontological when it includes both. The ability to ...
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Is Kant's thing-in-itself equivalent to Freud's unconscious?

In this video on Youtube (Kant, la experiencia posible y la experiencia imposible) at about 12minutes 50seconds, the presenter seems to say (my translation from the Spanish subtitles) ... Kant's ...
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What is Kant's Proof for the Existence of the Noumenal World?

I have yet to read any convincing evidence that we should accept Kant’s assertion that a world outside our senses exists. I think Occam’s Razor tells us it is simpler to assume there is just one ...
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Is it the case that Kant was indirectly 'describing' the noumenon by defining phenomenon?

In all commentaries on Kant's philosophy and his Critique of Pure Reason, it is stated that noumenon is completely unknowable. For example in the entry of 'Appearance' in Encyclopaedia Britannica we ...
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Is Kant's noumenon very small or very big?

I've not read any full chapters on Kant, and even less of his work. Am just familiar with the idea that, for Kant, things as they really are in themselves, noumenal reality, is unknowable. I was just ...
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What are the similarities/differences between how Kant thinks 'noumenon' limits understanding compared to C.S. Peirce?

Kant stated in Critique of Pure Reason, pg. 273: What our understanding acquires through this concept of a noumenon, is a negative extension; that is to say, understanding is not limited through ...
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How does Materialism provide response to the kantian split between noumena and phenomena?

How do current (and traditional) materialists address the problems Kant provided with the separation of noumena and phenomena? It would seem a materialist wishes the phenomena to disappear and leave ...
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How does phenomena prove noumena, for kant?

In relation to a prior posted question (which I didn't feel recieved adiquate response), how does Kant claim that observations of objective reality prove something beyond the phenomena, namely noumena?...
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Kant's Take on "If a Tree Falls in a Forest, Does it Make a Sound?"

To Kant, if you stop looking at something or if there are no agents with categories or elements of the understanding within the proximity of an object, does the noumenon manifest itself?
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How does Kant link the noumenal and phenomenal worlds when it comes to the noumenal and phenomenal mind?

Kant argues for a separation between the noumenal world and the phenomenal world, for good reason. Kant does not, however, seem to believe the mind is noumenal. If we operate on a brain and we remove ...
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Which are noumena: Physical objects, Time and space, Perfectly rational minds?

Source: p 137, Philosophy: A Complete Introduction (2012) by Prof. Sharon Kaye MA PhD (in Philosophy, U. Toronto) 10 Which of the following are things-in-themselves, in Kant's view? a) Actions that ...
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Why did Kant import the Greek 'nooúmenon' for describing his noumenon?

Source: p 216, Philosophy: The Classics (4 ed, 2014) by Nigel Warburton PhD in Philosophy (Cambridge) Kant distinguishes between the world we experience (the world of phenomena), and the ...
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Can we conceive of noumena and do we need to?

The encyclopedia Britannica says: Kant’s immediate successors in German Idealism in fact rejected the noumenal as having no existence for man’s intelligence A few days ago I asked another ...
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How does Kant justify the introduction of the noumenon?

Kant introduces the notion of the noumenon in his critical philosophy; he also later demonstrates in his system that solipsism isn't possible. Is the introduction of the noumenon essential to this ...
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Is Kant's noumenon infinite and in what sense?

In the Critique of Pure Reason (B306) Kant defines noumenon - the thing in itself: If, by the term noumenon, we understand a thing so far as it is not an object of our sensuous intuition, thus ...
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How would Kant defend the concept of the noumenon against Berkeley's charge?

Berkeley asserts that it is meaningless to speak of things-in-themselves that are not subject to human evaluation. Given that, no ampliative judgements can be made by postulating a causal relation ...
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Is noumenon to phenomenon for Kant what substance to accident is for Aristotle?

Is     noumenon : phenomenon :: substance : accident     ?cf. "We know substances by means of their accidents?" I realize the analogy isn't perfect: Aristotle thinks substances can be known, ...
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what was Plato's view on noumenon?

The relation between objects in the world is established by pure concepts existing a-priori: 1) These concepts belong to a world of absolute concepts away from the mind - Plato 2) These concepts ...
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Are numbers noumena?

According to OED, noumenon is An object knowable only by the mind or intellect, not by the senses But I'm a little confused at considering about numbers, they seem to be objects knowable only by ...
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